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underpants

(182,829 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:17 AM Aug 2016

Hold on folks. Trump's about to make a comeback.

Just the feeling I'm getting. Frankly we all should know that this will tighten up, it has to. The media is dying for a horse race and Trump is going to do what he has to to give them one.

As much as we want to ridicule what he actually says (and has said) the massses are just going to be told that he's looking "Presidential" and hear only the best 20 seconds of his daily speech. He's going to visit flooded Louisiana which fits perfectly to this new approach.

Has he already made too big an ass of himself for people to take him seriously? We'll see but trust me he's coming back. Just a feeling I get.

BTW -this Iran payment thing is not going to help either. The press is about to unload on President Obama and his approval rating directly affects to election.

Hold on folks, it's about to get rocky.

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Hold on folks. Trump's about to make a comeback. (Original Post) underpants Aug 2016 OP
It has already started. femmocrat Aug 2016 #1
Yeah, when he tells African-Americans their schools suck, they got no jobs, .... Coyotl Aug 2016 #46
How do we stop it? Skidmore Aug 2016 #2
GOTV TeamPooka Aug 2016 #34
^ ^ ^THIS! ^ ^ ^ lastlib Aug 2016 #68
I agree lapfog_1 Aug 2016 #3
And now they are pushing "Clinton has a rare brain disease" MohRokTah Aug 2016 #4
The proper attack on that is to find Trump medical problems Democat Aug 2016 #5
here ya go ... napkinz Aug 2016 #10
Is he drunk and about to vomit? BigDemVoter Aug 2016 #47
No. Hunting for truffles. tavernier Aug 2016 #50
we need to hit Trump on his bogus medical report, the fake letter the he himself may have written! napkinz Aug 2016 #12
Check off the firewalls JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #6
People can be easily swayed with repetition underpants Aug 2016 #7
Nope. His entire career is a series of grand, unfulfilled promises... Orsino Aug 2016 #8
yep, the media is pushing the comeback narrative napkinz Aug 2016 #9
I don't agree. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #11
I agree. It's the only move he has left. Bucky Aug 2016 #13
Just pay attention to the Tweets ... he is already showing signs the pivot is over in 3-2-1 JCMach1 Aug 2016 #14
I think it's going to get worse. sofa king Aug 2016 #15
and here you have it ... they're pushing the GREAT COMEBACK! napkinz Aug 2016 #16
There ya go underpants Aug 2016 #20
And that's from Capehart. NWCorona Aug 2016 #25
Trump's pivot/reset will last till workinclasszero Aug 2016 #17
Well lets see... Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #18
I don't see it. Agschmid Aug 2016 #19
Hillary +8 in latest poll Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #21
They said that about the Battle of the Bulge. rug Aug 2016 #22
Wake me up when he goes on vacation. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #23
Isn't that what Putin does to him, "make a comeback?" TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #24
At some point, Trump will be asked who he is apologizing to and will be given Doodley Aug 2016 #26
Always vigilant and GOTV n/t hibbing Aug 2016 #27
As long as he LOOKS Presidential, Chris Matthews will slobber... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #28
Matthews does not like Trump. Reason? Trump's birtherism. Trying to make Obama foreign emulatorloo Aug 2016 #40
Well, Matthews has that going for him then. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #41
He dismantled a Trump surrogate one night last week for deflecting and not answering the question emulatorloo Aug 2016 #42
Mathews wants a horse race. He was drooling all over Trumps "makeover" redstateblues Aug 2016 #53
I think he's correct. Trump's AA speech designed to "prove" he's not racist. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #67
we *need* it to tighten up through September 0rganism Aug 2016 #29
After the complete destruction of the Republican party EL34x4 Aug 2016 #65
them? they're GOP for the long haul 0rganism Aug 2016 #66
Progressives must stop saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #30
He's making a comeback because he didn't fling shit today, sort of. MyNameGoesHere Aug 2016 #31
Fu*k him MFM008 Aug 2016 #32
This teleprompter shit is going to become The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #33
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #35
That's a good one!! ailsagirl Aug 2016 #44
You have more faith in the american voter than I... BlueStateLib Aug 2016 #45
My fear is the "new" Trump will actually manage to attract more dimwits. Vinca Aug 2016 #36
YOU HAVE TO GO SOME WHERE TO MAKE A COME BACK! yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #37
How many comebacks is this now? GreenEyedLefty Aug 2016 #38
media pivots on trump BlueStateLib Aug 2016 #39
FEAR NOT! REST EASY! trof Aug 2016 #43
It will be portrayed that way for sure Dem2 Aug 2016 #48
This is the part where the abusive spouse acts nice to mess with their victim's head. Avalux Aug 2016 #49
I agree. Imperialism Inc. Aug 2016 #51
$ underpants Aug 2016 #52
Lol vadermike Aug 2016 #54
I was going to say I'll worry when he manages to go a week without doing something dumb Maeve Aug 2016 #55
The Iran Payment thing is not even true. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #56
So when does the truth matter in this election? Kilgore Aug 2016 #62
I don't see this going anywhere. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #64
A combback? Blue Owl Aug 2016 #57
Meh, I doubt there will be a "comeback" Lsantos04 Aug 2016 #58
How we fight back is to keep reminding people he's a racist, a xenophobe, a Russian funded underthematrix Aug 2016 #59
Both candidates have high negative ratings citood Aug 2016 #60
Never ever underestimate Trump Kilgore Aug 2016 #61
One thing I DO expect RUMP to do MFM008 Aug 2016 #63

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. It has already started.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:20 AM
Aug 2016

The media is drooling at the prospect of a "new and improved" trump. I just hope that Hillary did not peak too soon and it is too late to persuade the voters. People seem to have decided, according to some poll I saw. (sorry, no link)

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
46. Yeah, when he tells African-Americans their schools suck, they got no jobs, ....
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:56 PM
Aug 2016

The only thing that has actually started is the laugh fest. "What the hell do you have to lose?" Yeah, that's what motivates voters, nothing to lose.

BREYON @Br3yon
So according to Trump, all black Americans live in poverty, go to bad schools, and have no jobs. And tell me again why I should vote 4 him?


Isaiah Thomas ‏@candidateTHOMAS 1 hour ago
Trump to African-American voters: With poverty, bad schools, no jobs, "What the hell do you have to lose?" - if this isn't stereotyping...

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
68. ^ ^ ^THIS! ^ ^ ^
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 03:41 PM
Aug 2016

If we can do a better job of this than the GOPhers, we win. If we don't, we lose. Plain and simple.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
3. I agree
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:23 AM
Aug 2016

he has set the bar so low that now that he "apologized" (for what? and when was there an "I'm sorry"?) and is visiting flooded Louisiana and giving "prompter" speeches... the media will say that he has "turned it around" and the "last reboot worked".

Which is why I just donated $100 to Hillary.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
4. And now they are pushing "Clinton has a rare brain disease"
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:32 AM
Aug 2016

Smelling like 2004 all over again.

Hillary's biggest asset is her intelligence, so they are swiftboating that by giving her a "rare brain disease".

Democat

(11,617 posts)
5. The proper attack on that is to find Trump medical problems
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:35 AM
Aug 2016

Democrats should always hit back twice as hard.

There are pictures of Trump crawling around on the ground. If they want to go to war, Democrats should destroy them in that war.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
6. Check off the firewalls
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:45 AM
Aug 2016

Black Americans
Collegiate level of education women

I think those two are safe (I check off both of those boxes). . . so who are the ones in the coalition who Trump Co. might think they can play to weakness with?

underpants

(182,829 posts)
7. People can be easily swayed with repetition
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:55 AM
Aug 2016

It doesn't have to be good advertising (or "news&quot just make it "the thing everyone's doing" and people will get in line.

To me, the question of WHERE is as important as WHO. The right number of people in certain states can have a big impact.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. Nope. His entire career is a series of grand, unfulfilled promises...
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:56 AM
Aug 2016

...of terrific things that never, ever happen.

He's going to bumble on until he can't stand losing this hard, and quit.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
9. yep, the media is pushing the comeback narrative
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:00 AM
Aug 2016

If you watched the cable news networks last night and this morning, you heard: He's had a good week! He gave three solid speeches! He's back on messsage! He has a new campaign team! He's launching TV ads in the battleground states! The race could tighten!

I created a thread calling on Democrats to be as relentless in attacking Trump as Republicans have been in attacking Hillary:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028108711

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
13. I agree. It's the only move he has left.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:14 AM
Aug 2016

Too many powerful people think they can benefit too much from him winning

(or at least doing respectably better than the current trainwreck)

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
15. I think it's going to get worse.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:18 AM
Aug 2016

Manafort's Friday news-dump departure is exactly what I predicted for the whole campaign last week.

My assumption is that breaking the letter of espionage laws counts a lot more to the FBI than it does to CNN.

What I failed to account for is the unique combination of stubbornness and stupidity that trickles down from the top of the Trump campaign like fuel oil from the Bismarck's hull. Trump is still on the move, for now, but the fleet is closing in on him.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
16. and here you have it ... they're pushing the GREAT COMEBACK!
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:20 AM
Aug 2016
Red alert, Democrats. Donald Trump might be poised to make a comeback.

By Jonathan Capehart
August 18, 2016

Democrats have reason to be thrilled by the campaign chaos swarming the presidential campaign of Donald Trump. Three different campaign managers in two months? Poll numbers in the toilet? Reliably red states in danger of turning blue? The rending of garments and gnashing of teeth of dyed-in-the-wool Republicans as the party of Reagan sinks inexorably into the party of Trump? The schadenfreude is just too delicious.

But the shoe will be on the other foot if Democrats don’t heed the warning signs I’ve noticed in the past few days.

Hours before news of the change in campaign management was announced, Trump gave a speech in Wisconsin. His pitch to African Americans on crime and jobs was undermined not only by his history of hostility toward them but also by his delivering it in overwhelmingly white West Bend, Wis., which he repeatedly referred to as predominantly black “Milwaukee.” A city literally aflame with tension after a police-involved shooting on Aug. 13.

But as I listened to Trump, I was struck by how he delivered his teleprompter-assisted speech. Gone was the listlessness from previous days. His confidence was back. And that pitch of his had just enough footholds of credibility as it was rooted in traditional law-and-order conservatism the GOP is known for. Still, it was raw.

-snip-

But therein lies the opportunity of the Big Apple billionaire. If he gives more speeches in performance and rhetoric as he did in Wisconsin, dare I say pivot ever so slightly, Trump could give those embarrassed white Republican voters the thinnest of veils they need to vote for him. And that could be all that Trump needs.

read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/08/18/red-alert-democrats-donald-trump-might-be-poised-to-make-a-comeback/
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
17. Trump's pivot/reset will last till
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:26 AM
Aug 2016

tomorrow when he opens his pie hole and shit falls out.

Let Trump be Trump I say!

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
18. Well lets see...
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:39 AM
Aug 2016

Paul Manafort has resigned because of his close ties to Russia, Trump has hired a white supremacist as campaign "CEO" whatever the hell that is, and Kellyann Conjob will soon realize that like a drownding man, Trump will take her to the bottom with him.

We still need to fight like hell every day and leave nothing to chance - but Trump is still the bloviating loser he always has been.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
21. Hillary +8 in latest poll
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 04:52 PM
Aug 2016

The big polling firms should show her pulling away by even more in the coming week. The state polls have been dramatic in their movement to Clinton, so should the national polls. We'll see when Wapo, WSJ, and FOX polls come out. Should be pushing 10 or better in all big polls.

Doodley

(9,094 posts)
26. At some point, Trump will be asked who he is apologizing to and will be given
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:09 PM
Aug 2016

a list of possibilities. Then he will return to form as an asshole.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
40. Matthews does not like Trump. Reason? Trump's birtherism. Trying to make Obama foreign
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 06:21 PM
Aug 2016

Brings it up now and again. Finds Trump's birtherism disgusting and un-American.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
41. Well, Matthews has that going for him then.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 06:27 PM
Aug 2016

I'm not very impressed by him on MSNBC overall. If that's going to be the supposed liberal cable channel, he needs to step up his game or retire. He let that new Trump campaign manager roll all over him last night.

He also couldn't praise Dumbya enough during that "Mission Accomplished" photo op.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
42. He dismantled a Trump surrogate one night last week for deflecting and not answering the question
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 06:32 PM
Aug 2016

Yeah agreed that he is a mixed bag. When on point can tear apart the talking point spewers. When not on point you never know what'll happen

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
53. Mathews wants a horse race. He was drooling all over Trumps "makeover"
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 10:58 PM
Aug 2016

He kept repeating that the appeal to AAs was to get back the female suburban vote. That sounds ridiculous to me. I've been a fan of Tweety but he is losing me more everyday. Today was one of his low points for me.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
67. I think he's correct. Trump's AA speech designed to "prove" he's not racist.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 01:17 PM
Aug 2016

White Female surburban voters tend to vote Republican, but they have gone to HRC partly because of Trump's racist comments. Same with white college grads. Another group he is struggling with.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
29. we *need* it to tighten up through September
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:12 PM
Aug 2016

otherwise the RNC might decide their candidate is pure shit puffs and find a way to replace him
sure, they'd still lose, but they'd maintain relevance as a political party
for the complete destruction of the Republican party, we need tRump on that ballot in November

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
65. After the complete destruction of the Republican party
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 09:50 AM
Aug 2016

Where do Trump's millions of supporters go? They're not going to turn to dust and vanish into the ether.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
66. them? they're GOP for the long haul
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:07 AM
Aug 2016

their job is to keep the GOP alive in name only for the next decade. with their "help", the GOP primaries will produce only the crappiest candidates, driving the party further and further into obscurity. eventually, it will dissolve completely, fragmenting into a raftload of fringe white power parties. by that time, the national security and finance-focused Republicans will have joined the Democratic party, and the realignment will be complete, with Democrats left as the dominant mainstream centrist party.

conversely, if tRump is somehow forced off the ticket by the RNC, their support collapses for this election only -- the party nominally saves face and can go back to being a pathway to power for extreme douchebags well into the next century. the realignment will still be pending, but it will be delayed. meanwhile, the alliance of racists and religious fanatics and MIC fatcats persists, along with more of the same horrible-yet-electable candidates we've seen since the '90s. the racists and bigots will be extra ornery, but they'll go along just to have some influence.

by far the best results for the nation are if tRump stays on the ticket and gets thoroughly pounded in November.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
30. Progressives must stop
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:16 PM
Aug 2016

claiming victory, the battle is at hand. We will win, if we "stick together" against the forces that try to divide US. These sickos know that their only hope is to "divide and conquer".

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
31. He's making a comeback because he didn't fling shit today, sort of.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:18 PM
Aug 2016

Watching his Detroit speechifying he is still flinging shit. I'm not worried in the least. He's going after AA for votes. It doesn't get any stupider than that.

MFM008

(19,816 posts)
32. Fu*k him
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:20 PM
Aug 2016

2 days are supposed to show us he has had an Ebenezer Scrooge type of transormation.
What happened was they told him if you don't make a radical change BIGLY by labor day your going to lose like Goldwater or Mondale.
Now he might lose like Dukakis.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
33. This teleprompter shit is going to become
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:20 PM
Aug 2016

A joke in a couple of days. The public is stupid but not that stupid.

Response to underpants (Original post)

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
36. My fear is the "new" Trump will actually manage to attract more dimwits.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 05:49 PM
Aug 2016

I was watching him today in Louisiana and the masses seemed to love him. It made me want to puke.

trof

(54,256 posts)
43. FEAR NOT! REST EASY!
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 06:43 PM
Aug 2016

His two new -hires, Brannon and Conway (sounds like a vaudeville burlesque slapstick act) gives us a brass-bound, copper-riveted, fire-assayed, double-bottom, leak-proof LOCK.
Trust me.
But vote, anyway.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
48. It will be portrayed that way for sure
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 10:38 PM
Aug 2016

They won't have me as part of their audience, I'm checking out as a form of protest. I don't need to see this game one more time in my life. I'm more motivated than ever to ensure the Nazi doesn't win and I won't let the media discourage me.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
49. This is the part where the abusive spouse acts nice to mess with their victim's head.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 10:41 PM
Aug 2016

Let's hope the victim has had enough and kicks his ass all the way to Russia.

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
51. I agree.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 10:48 PM
Aug 2016

He's finally trying to give the press the story line they wanted to write all along; the one they already had written and ready to go. The pivot!

Not to mention he's started running ads and filling their coffers. Giving the gate keepers their cut.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
55. I was going to say I'll worry when he manages to go a week without doing something dumb
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:11 PM
Aug 2016

And then he goes to Louisiana with Play-doh.......

GOTV, pop some corn and hold on for a ride!

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
56. The Iran Payment thing is not even true.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:14 PM
Aug 2016

and is a rightwing meme. I don't agree. I do not believe it will tighten up. Your concern is duly noted.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
62. So when does the truth matter in this election?
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 12:47 AM
Aug 2016

The electorate for the most part does not seem to care.

 

Lsantos04

(48 posts)
58. Meh, I doubt there will be a "comeback"
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:43 PM
Aug 2016

It has been almost a month after the RNC and DNC conventions, and Hillary still maintains a healthy lead over Donald. As Trump has stated countless times before, his pivot will never occur, and his latest commercial, which is nothing but fearmongering about "brown people", is proof of that.
As long as Clinton keeps on pointing out Trump's weaknesses, she'll be fine.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
59. How we fight back is to keep reminding people he's a racist, a xenophobe, a Russian funded
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:49 PM
Aug 2016

candidate, mentally unstable, ignorant and unwilling to learn the basics of governing, sexist, a liar, a criminal, a user, a fool, dangerous

citood

(550 posts)
60. Both candidates have high negative ratings
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:51 PM
Aug 2016

This almost guarantees it will remain a close race...talk of a landslide doesn't match reality.

MFM008

(19,816 posts)
63. One thing I DO expect RUMP to do
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 02:58 AM
Aug 2016

Is step all over his own efforts.
SOMEONE is going to say something he doesn't like and BOOM there it is.
You can put a monkey in a suit and tell us he can be an astronaut
but sooner or later he acts like a monkey again.

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