Manafort leaving means it's over for Trump

[stopbush]

He's a sleeze, but he was correct in trying to get Trump to pivot toward normalcy for the GE. He failed in that, because anyone would have failed. Trump's response was to bring in a couple of smarmy, sneering far-right yes men who will rubber stamp Trump's losing strategy.

Bannon and Conway aren't stupid. Both know that their personal political apples will be polished in the RW world by having led a presidential campaign, even one that is failing and will ultimately lose big time, as will Trump's. They are taking advantage of the stupidity of Trump's naivety to advance their own standing in RW power circles. Their excuse when Trump loses will be that they were called in too late...but don't let that stop any 2020 candidates putting their numbers on speed dial.

I for one am breathing a big sigh of relief now that Manafort is out and those two RW nut jobs are in.

[longship]

1. Are you implying that he was a campaign asset?

The Trump meltdown will be complete. At this point anything he does is frosting on the cake.

He keeps doubling down. He cannot help himself.

[stopbush]

2. He was the best shot Trump had to pivot.

He failed.

BTW - just saw this Nate Silver article which confirms what I said in my OP:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512374166

[oberliner]

3. Conway is much better at managing the pivot

Expect nothing but teleprompter speeches from now on.

[stopbush]

4. Teleprompters aren't used in the debates, or in TV interviews.

Besides, do you really think Trump is going to listen to a woman?

[oberliner]

5. He'll get talking points for the debates

And will just repeat them regardless of question asked, a la Marco Rubio.

I think Trump really wants to win and will do whatever he thinks it takes to make that happen.

[stopbush]

6. Not a winning strategy for a GE debate.

I'm really not at all concerned about such things, nor do I see the value in imaging that one of Trump's major liabilities is going to miraculously become one of his strengths.

You don't see Hillary's campaign roling over and refusing to attack Trump, as did his R primary opponents. No sir. She is on the attack, viciously.

[oberliner]

8. We just need to stay vigilant and focus on GOTV

As far as I am concerned, that is the winning strategy.

[Delphinus]

14. We cannot become complacent.

Some folks at work looked at me strangely when I said I would not rest easy until the day AFTER the election.

[BigDemVoter]

12. And the tiresome MSM will say that he "performed well" if he doesn't shit in his pants onstage.

[oberliner]

13. Exactly

Bar is so low that anything other than a complete meltdown will be spun as "surprisingly effective".

[NewJeffCT]

15. You're right

The bar is now so low that I think even shitting his pants would be considered a victory - as long as he didn't shoot anybody, spank Hillary on the butt or insult any multiple groups of people the media will claim Trump has turned the corner and is now surging! ("Look, he only insulted Mexicans, but refused to take the bait on Cubans and Puerto Ricans! Amazing! Masterful!&quot

But, prior to the first debate in 2012, Obama looked to be pulling away and was up near double digits in some polls. Then, Romney did his etch-a-sketch routine and became a moderate for the debate and did surge in the polls. While it wasn't enough to win, it was closer than it seemed like it was going to be in late August 2012.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

16. Just like Dumbya. He won the debate!

[Maru Kitteh]

7. The ongoing "turdnado," the number of turnovers, and the shitty candidate

give them all a very convenient excuse for the massive failure that will be.

[Native]

9. Does this mean Page and Gates are gone as well? Manafort wasn't the only Russian operative.

[Native]

10. Nevermind - just read that they're staying; Putin will still have eyes on the ground.

[randome]

11. I disagree with the premise that ANYONE will benefit from being associated with the Trump campaign.

EVERYONE so far has died under the public spotlight. Manafort, of course, will rue the day he ever agreed to work for Trump. And what was he thinking? That being front and center at the campaign would somehow hide his dirty secrets?

Trump hires people just like himself: ignorant and with plenty of dirt for reporters to dig up. Taking these bozos out is like shooting fish in a barrel. Fish that leap AT the barrel instead of giving even the PRETENSE of wanting to not be shot
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