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Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 09:48 PM Aug 2016

New PPP poll: Clinton: 48; Trump 43

Holds a similar lead with the full field, but at lower numbers. This holds steady from their last poll a month ago. Being leaked on Twitter, "official release" tomorrow. Good results, all things considered.

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New PPP poll: Clinton: 48; Trump 43 (Original Post) Adrahil Aug 2016 OP
I'm hoping NBC will be higher tomorrow Funtatlaguy Aug 2016 #1
If it's higher, I hope they let Andrea Mitchell break the news. SaschaHM Aug 2016 #2
Lol Funtatlaguy Aug 2016 #3
The important bit here.... Adrahil Aug 2016 #6
National polls have typically shown the Presidential races KMOD Aug 2016 #4
+ 10000 Mass Aug 2016 #8
If the polls remain the same then I hope the media helpisontheway Aug 2016 #5
Good news that it stays at +5 even in a 4-way race bluestateguy Aug 2016 #7
I expect SCliberal91294 Aug 2016 #9
Why? MoonRiver Aug 2016 #16
Because of the "unpopularity" of both candidates Cosmocat Aug 2016 #18
Well, Rump is more unpopular than Hillary, so I see it as advantage us. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #19
IDK Cosmocat Aug 2016 #20
I agree Cosmocat Aug 2016 #17
Great vadermike Aug 2016 #10
We still need to GOTV-Yes we do. riversedge Aug 2016 #14
Where are the Hillary big hitters? Doodley Aug 2016 #11
President O vadermike Aug 2016 #12
She is holding steady Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #13
Looking good! Steady as she goes! Our party has a fantastic candidate! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #15
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
6. The important bit here....
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:01 PM
Aug 2016

Is that this lead is steady from last month, and it's a solid lead outside the MOE. The poll was conducted over the weekend, so all the bullshit and Trump 3.0 have amounted to very little in the end.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
4. National polls have typically shown the Presidential races
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 09:59 PM
Aug 2016

between the parties to be within 1-2 points in the past 20 years.

The fact that Hillary is up by 5 in pretty incredible.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
8. + 10000
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:15 PM
Aug 2016

The handwringing on polls variations are driving me nuts. Could people stop behaving as if we had a 2 point race. I know the media would LOVE it, but this is not the case.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
5. If the polls remain the same then I hope the media
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:00 PM
Aug 2016

will shut the hell up about the foundation and email messages.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
7. Good news that it stays at +5 even in a 4-way race
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:04 PM
Aug 2016

Third party voters start to fade in the polls by early October. That's the historical trend.

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
18. Because of the "unpopularity" of both candidates
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 08:50 AM
Aug 2016

johnson is going to have the biggest share of votes for a third party candidate since Perot in 96, and it is pretty likely unless the media can avoid its nature and not come up with any more false "scandals" for Hillary in the next 70 days or so that she will, like Bill in 96, not get 50% of the vote.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
19. Well, Rump is more unpopular than Hillary, so I see it as advantage us.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:06 AM
Aug 2016

She's also been getting more than 50% of the vote in numerous polls lately. Don't see how this is going to tighten up much. Plus, the anticipation is that she will fillet him in the debates, so her numbers could even go up.

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
20. IDK
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:54 AM
Aug 2016

Someone posted an article from 538 that breaks down some of the dynamics of the third party candidates this cycle.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/down-ballot-democrats-should-go-after-johnson-and-stein-voters/

Still a ways to go, and this media is VERY capable, in fact inclined toward, finding some bullshit to gin up a "scandal" on Hillary, as her small dip in this set of polls reflects the bullshit over the foundation.

Also, she could kill the donald in a debate on the issues, but all it takes is her making the wrong face and that could be what the right wing and media make it about.

Finally, I am not sure where you are getting this stuff about her getting more than 50% of the vote in numerous polls lately.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

The polls RCP is showing this week have her at 41, 46, 49 and 44. The only poll there I see her at or over 50% is the one Q poll last week.

I am not saying he can't or won't get above 50 percent definitively.

Just that there IS going to be a lot of people voting for Johnson, and a lesser extent Stein.

If they get even a collective of 7% of the vote and Trump gets 44 percent ... basic math.

Johnny2X2X

(19,094 posts)
13. She is holding steady
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:49 PM
Aug 2016

Trump supporters thing any poll not showing him down by 10 is good news for them. Polls this week are Hillary +10, +7, +5, and +8 and they think that's awesome because they're not +12, +13, +11, and +10.

This is not a close race so far and there are less undecideds that 3 weeks ago.

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