2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDear Jerk-Offs Who are Firing Their Employees
You can't blame Obamacare, nimrods. The penalties for failure to provide your employees coverage don't kick in until 2014, and if you have under 50 employees, there's no penalty at all. So how do you explain firing them now?
What petty, petty assholes you are.
Systematic Chaos
(8,601 posts)It's our fault that businesses are laying off, don't ya know?
madashelltoo
(1,699 posts)You won't hear one word when they extend those hours and call back the laid off. If there's one thing they all love . . . It's money. Burgers and fries don't make themselves and coal damn sure don't float up on a whim. Ignore the temper tantrum.
Beartracks
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)oh, that's right, their flag pins all fell off this week
intheflow
(28,501 posts)gravity
(4,157 posts)Don't these business owners understand that employee wages are tax deductible.
EmilyAnne
(2,769 posts)The average person sees these tantrums and is reminded of how much they despise most corporate executives.
Coupled with Romney's "I like firing people" line and it makes these people look cruel and petty.
My husband is the president and co-founder of a small company. He AGONIZES over things like this. He had to lay off six people in 2009 and it was awful. He knew that these were people's lives he was affecting, their dreams, their families. He had already taken a substantial pay cut the year before, along with the other executives, hoping to avoid the layoffs. I just can't believe the flippant, callous way these people are talking about lay offs. It is disgusting and immoral. Never mind that it is also a bad business practice.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)....friends and family members have lost their jobs because of their rich boss being pissed off because they couldn't buy the White House and it's going to cause the right-wing AND THE RICH to lose their "victim" status.
America already thinks of these people as assholes and this will further push the idea that these people deserve zero sympathy over a lousy few percent increase in their taxes.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)We'll have to see how far that excuse flies with the electorate. I'm sure the Dittoheads will believe it without question.
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Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)dchill
(38,532 posts)and racism. Plus they, like Mitt and the Donald, like to fire people.
part man all 86
(367 posts)aletier_v
(1,773 posts)Take all their money!!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Fox Noize and others are just trumpeting every single layoff as a result of the election. Not so. You tell me RIM wasn't going to fire people? That whole COMPANY is on a death watch, and it's not even specifically related to the economy, let alone health care. They were trading at over $140 in 2008. Their stock is worth about 8$ now. They are goners.
A lot of these layoffs were coming anyway, most or all for unrelated reasons.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I just think it's bad business to be so vocal about your politics, no matter which side of the aisle you're on. When you own a large fast food chain, you're bound to have people of all backgrounds patronize your business. And he also could've just raised the price of his pizzas by a few cents in order to compensate if Obamacare really bothers him that much.
Vestigial_Sister
(182 posts)I actually bought a pie from this dickweed last week.
Less embarrassing is the fact that it caused me to shit me drawers shortly after consumption
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)I already stopped buying from them after his ridiculous announcement that his pizzas would have to go up twelve cents because of Obamacare.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)That is a pretty poor business model when you only try to serve 33% of your potential customer base.
Worse yet - alienating 67% is downright foolish.
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)I think a lot of these people are going to back down.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Profit is one thing, but 'obscene profit' is just that
obscene
They should update obscenity laws to take care of these idiots.
lexw
(804 posts)...then if it doesn't pass, they'll try to gain seats in both houses.
Plan B, I'll bet.
We don't go back to business as usual and we keep both of those plans from happening.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)And this has gotta be one of the cleanest Presidents in history.
Not to mention, that while the actual charges get brought in the House, the SENATE is the body that actually has to hold the Trial, and either convict, or NOT (as will be the case in that Dem-controlled body).
If they even THINK that's a firecracker that won't blow their own hands off, the lot of them are so nuts they are beyond redemption as A PARTY, and it's a drama that the NEW American electorate will get to watch, live and in Prime Time.
And Daryll ISSA is the guy that gets to Chair this Circus?
Good luck with that, House Republicans...
aandegoons
(473 posts)I say tax em till it hurts it's time for America to fire the self centered rich.
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)They will be growing our base!!!!!!! And as they find out the truth and actually look at real math and science they will realize FACTS DO MATTER!!!!!!And they will have a learned contempt for a Party that once was!!!!
iiibbb
(1,448 posts)FUD
no business that makes emotional decisions can be expected to do well...
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)RosedaleGuy
(89 posts)Layoffs should be a carefully thought out business decision not an impulsive political reaction. These are incompetent businessmen.
rucky
(35,211 posts)if they're unable to adapt to something they knew was a likely possibility for two years.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)due to the fact that it is illegal.
I assume the fired people are contacting the Bureau of Labor.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)What douche nozzles.
Norrin Radd
(4,959 posts)PD Turk
(1,289 posts)They've been abusing us for decades, it's becoming obvious they'll never get it until we go medievil on their ass
and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....at the end of their fiscal year. It has absolutely nothing to do with the President being reelected or Obamacare. But, they want Americans to believe that's the primary reason so they can justify firing employees before the Holidays.
I was in Human Resources and recruiting for more than twenty-five years, so I know how this works. Happens every year just like clockwork.