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Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:43 AM Sep 2016

Today's polls show that the Kerry Wall has held

That is a massive advantage for Democrats in this election and going forward. If the last two weeks didn't breach that wall, I don't think that much can.

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Today's polls show that the Kerry Wall has held (Original Post) Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 OP
Loki, showing my ignorance here, but what is the Kerry wall? nt kstewart33 Sep 2016 #1
Set of states that Kerry won. Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #3
Based on the Electoral College... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #4
hmm....did we lose 11 EV votes from blue states since then? Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #6
I was just estimating... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #9
Um...'blue babies' ain't good. trof Sep 2016 #14
I thought it was an Obama wall... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #2
Why do I love polls so much? NCTraveler Sep 2016 #5
We should call it something else-Kerry lost redstateblues Sep 2016 #7
I'm just using Josh Marshall's term Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #8
So you're not concerned today? Sugarcoated Sep 2016 #10
Haven't been concerned all election Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #11
Does this "concern" you Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #12
Sam Wang triron Sep 2016 #13
New NYT/Sienna triron Sep 2016 #15

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
3. Set of states that Kerry won.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016

251 electoral votes.

Basically it seems we can't fall below that in electoral contests. Makes winning much easier.

Wounded Bear

(63,886 posts)
4. Based on the Electoral College...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:45 AM
Sep 2016

that refers to the pretty much solid Dem states that always vote blue and have voted blue in most recent elections. Right now that represents about 240 of the 270 needed for Clinton to win.

Wounded Bear

(63,886 posts)
9. I was just estimating...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:52 AM
Sep 2016

and I don't hearken back to the Kerry election very often. IAE, we're still in good shape, that's the important part.

trof

(54,274 posts)
14. Um...'blue babies' ain't good.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 04:24 PM
Sep 2016

Congenital heart defect.
I know that's not what you meant, but...

Wounded Bear

(63,886 posts)
2. I thought it was an Obama wall...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016


Yeah, we're still sitting on a base EV tally around 240. Clinton has about 300 ways to win this, Trump has one or two.

Not to be an anti-concernist, but things are not that bad overall. I do stil want a really decisive win, though. Anything less than 350 might make me feel a bit disappointed.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. Why do I love polls so much?
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:46 AM
Sep 2016

Because of the analysis people provide from them. It's a full days worth of entertainment.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
7. We should call it something else-Kerry lost
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:49 AM
Sep 2016

I realize it is positive but it just doesn't sound good.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
8. I'm just using Josh Marshall's term
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:51 AM
Sep 2016

It's also the set of states Kerry won. I think he deserves that much credit at least.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
11. Haven't been concerned all election
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:59 AM
Sep 2016

My model (which I update and post about weekly) consistently has Hillary at 65-85% of a probability of win.

That's a heavy favorite.

I would prefer a 330 electoral vote win to a 273 vote win. But I don't see many plausible scenarios where she falls below 273 votes.

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
15. New NYT/Sienna
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:05 AM
Sep 2016

poll in North Carolina has HRC +2 head to head plus early voting going well for her.

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