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Is the Etch-a-Sketch gonan be Mittens Macaca? (Original Post) Rosco T. Mar 2012 OP
it's impossible to live down Enrique Mar 2012 #1
Here, let's see what Dem Rapid Response makes of it. denem Mar 2012 #2
Some of the comments were disappointing. It shows me that people simply are swayed by the LIES Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #4
Don't you think the GOP would have set up rapid response responders denem Mar 2012 #5
Good point. I sure hope you're right! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #15
The Paulbots are all over those comments. Mr.Turnip Mar 2012 #19
Like father, like son............. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #3
His father was a much better man. grantcart Mar 2012 #6
That's what has always left me wondering, denem Mar 2012 #7
I have sensed among many Mormons in his generation a super sensitivity to being found as outside grantcart Mar 2012 #8
Would he ignore JCS and State advice that such a course denem Mar 2012 #11
No I believe that he would listen carefully to his Secretary of State grantcart Mar 2012 #12
By the Holy Ghost, denem Mar 2012 #13
Stick a fork in him........ hayrow1 Mar 2012 #9
I think they are trying to throw it. They know he isn't going to win. MADem Mar 2012 #10
Dewey took down both Chambers of Congress with him. denem Mar 2012 #14
It would be nice if we had a tildewave come our way davidpdx Mar 2012 #16
Ohio is a done deal. denem Mar 2012 #21
I think that's our idea, too. sofa king Mar 2012 #18
No, because he himself didn't say it. Redneck Democrat Mar 2012 #17
Exactly. It was his campaign manager DFW Mar 2012 #20
It was a bone-headed, tone deaf statement to be sure Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #22

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
1. it's impossible to live down
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:20 PM
Mar 2012

in case anyone was still stupid enough to believe anything Mitt says, his adviser comes out and says, "Don't believe anything my boss says".

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
2. Here, let's see what Dem Rapid Response makes of it.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:24 PM
Mar 2012

Mitt Romney: Some Things You Can't Shake Off

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
4. Some of the comments were disappointing. It shows me that people simply are swayed by the LIES
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:40 PM
Mar 2012

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of this man.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
5. Don't you think the GOP would have set up rapid response responders
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:04 PM
Mar 2012

watching the Democrat's Rapid Response channel.

I don't read too much into comments until they get to four figures. But that's just me. Show me the numbers

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
19. The Paulbots are all over those comments.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:03 AM
Mar 2012

I don't think theirs been a group as goddamn obnoxious about politics as the Paulcult in quite some time.

I go to any slightly political article or video on the internet and there they are yelling about voter fraud, the media or some crazy conspiracy theory. When this cycle started I actually disliked Ron Paul less simply for seeming to be principled (of course with what we know about him and Romney that's dead now) but dear god his supporters have made me dislike him as much as all the others now.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. His father was a much better man.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:05 PM
Mar 2012

And what he said about Vietnam was a) the truth b) five years ahead of any other Republican.
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
7. That's what has always left me wondering,
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:12 PM
Mar 2012

what went wrong with Mitt? A lifetime's fear of failing his father's (now heavenly) expectations, or something more mundane like borderline Aspergers.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
8. I have sensed among many Mormons in his generation a super sensitivity to being found as outside
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:23 PM
Mar 2012

the accepted establishment with their unorthodox belief system. In Mitt's case his father was on his way to a Republican nomination and a very good chance to become President. As a young adult he saw it all come crashing down on a single word. On top of that I think that Romney is missing the 'courage' gene. All of his decisions, where to go on a mission, to stay out of the war, to go into investment business, to use leaverage and overwhelming capital as the primary tool of exploitation, using the same type of leverage in launching a political campaign, are the 'safest' possible path. At no time has he ever taken a courageous stand for anything.

Here is my worry, put aside all of the policy differences.

If I am right about Mitt Romney that means that if he were to become President his natural inclination is to use over power force to overwhelm and destroy an enemy rather than to engage and find a creative solution. Very quickly into his administration he would find an occassion to use military power in the same way he has used money to leverage economic combat.
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
11. Would he ignore JCS and State advice that such a course
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:55 PM
Mar 2012

may be awfully risky and could discredit the administration beyond repair.

I know he routinely ignores informed advice, but if you and others have pin pointed cowardice as his weakest link, there should be insiders who would have a fair idea of the levers to pull to scare him off. Or, do you think, as a last resort, a call from Monson would make a difference? 'We've got our temples going up all around the world Mitt. I must say to you, The Church would not welcome this sort of attention.' Remember, Mormons must be good neighbors, and you know that burden extends to every nation on earth.

Note: My natural inclination is to play defense attorney, with a sometimes groundless optimism of winning the case.

 

hayrow1

(198 posts)
9. Stick a fork in him........
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:28 PM
Mar 2012

Someone just pulled a loose thread on the Mittens and he is discombobulating.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. I think they are trying to throw it. They know he isn't going to win.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:29 PM
Mar 2012

We cannot be complacent, though. We have to go after this win like we're crawling over broken glass for every vote--really.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
14. Dewey took down both Chambers of Congress with him.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:12 PM
Mar 2012

If the Presidential race looks settled, the time will come to fully fund the House and Senate campaigns. I suspect GOP SuperPacs will be targeting every winnable seat. Think big, think 1984. That election changed the game for 24 years.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
16. It would be nice if we had a tildewave come our way
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:20 AM
Mar 2012

We need to win back some of the Governor's offices as well. New Hampshire, Virginia, Ohio, Michigan, Florida would be a good start.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
18. I think that's our idea, too.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:50 AM
Mar 2012

Since the Presidential race looks to be in the bag, I fully expect the President to shape his own campaign around growing his coattails. He'll visit every state with a Senate election, and stump for the local Democratic candidates at every stop he makes. He's the only voice of reason in this election so far, so I suspect his influence will be very powerful.

I've been arguing for the past year that the President has been busy building an overwhelming base of support to ensure that this election is not close enough to steal. That swell of anger, support, and motivation is sure to have an effect on the Congressional elections as well, especially if we can get voters on board with the idea of voting straight-D from now until there's not a single cuspidor left on the floor of the House.

I can't help wondering if the GOP SuperPacs and their backers are already screwed. They've already blown so much money just trying to force-feed their picked guy to an indifferent conservative electorate that I wonder how long it will be before big-money donors begin to realize that not only is their money failing to buy an alternate reality where Americans are not poor and pissed off, it has the potential to totally ruin them should they completely fail.

Should Congress shift entirely to the Democrats, Republican donors and the industries they represent will have absolutely no grease in DC when it comes time to rewrite regulations and tax laws. And then they will pay, all right, considerably more than they've already lost on this election.

A defeat like that could make political donations by corporations and the fabulously rich a major liability in the future--and you know what that means for the Republicans. Big money is the only thing keeping them in the game.

If word gets out that Republicans are a bad investment they are through, maybe forever, certainly for the better part of a decade or more.

Edit: Tildewave! ~~~~~oOOo~~~~~~

 

Redneck Democrat

(58 posts)
17. No, because he himself didn't say it.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:03 AM
Mar 2012

But it will be like the video of John Kerry surfboarding back & forth in that ad from '04.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
20. Exactly. It was his campaign manager
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:12 AM
Mar 2012

And you can always fire your campaign manager for being an idiot. McCain couldn't fire himself for picking Palin, because he signed off on it. Romney can always say he never approved the Etch-a-sketch line.

Rachel Maddow's segment on this was beyond brilliant, if it's still up for viewing. Her IQ must be in 4 digits.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
22. It was a bone-headed, tone deaf statement to be sure
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:36 AM
Mar 2012

Talk about "telegraphing your punches"! I don't know how this might play among moderates or independents but I would think that this could hurt him a lot with the "base", though it's becoming clearer that all the "base" can do about the nomination is just make some noise and try to influence the VP pick at this point. There does not seem to be a realistic possibility of the nomination going to Santorum or anybody else than Mitt.

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