Trump says he may not accept result if Clinton wins, in reversal from debate

[workinclasszero]

Trump says he may not accept result if Clinton wins, in reversal from debate
GOP nominee also spoke at length with the New York Times about the marital infidelities of former president Bill Clinton, insisting ‘Hillary was an enabler’
Alan Yuhas @alanyuhas Friday 30 September 2016 21.39 EDT

Donald Trump said on Friday that he would not necessarily accept the results of the presidential election in the event that Hillary Clinton defeated him, reversing his statement four days earlier that he would “absolutely” respect them.

After the first presidential debate on Monday, the Republican nominee told reporters “absolutely I would” honor the results of the election should he lose. In an interview with the New York Times on Friday, he backtracked: “We’re going to have to see. We’re going to see what happens. We’re going to have to see.”

Earlier that day at a rally in Detroit, Trump resurfaced fears of voter fraud and his unsubstantiated complaints of a “rigged” election. He told supporters that voter fraud is “a big, big problem in this country”, although research has found a few dozen potential incidents of in-person voter fraud in 14 years of US elections. He also urged them to “go and watch the polling places and make sure it is on the up and up”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/30/trump-clinton-support-election-winner-debate-interview

[wcmagumba]

1. Fortunately...

it is not up to Trump to "accept" the results of the election...

[GP6971]

2. If he doesn't accept the results

what will he do about it? He is so unhinged I have to worry about that.

[BobbyDrake]

9. More importantly, who would be on his side? His cases would be laughed out of court.

Any effort to inflate charges of a "rigged" election will only blow up in his face. After his campaign costs them the Senate, I doubt the GOP is going to continue playing along with his party-destroying antics.

[Hortensis]

3. Umhm. His hard-core followers would love this, of course.

But not at rallies because he'd have to pay for them himself and actual attendance would drop to almost nothing.

For a narcissist whose appetite for attention has grown even more enormous than his greed for money, it really seems as if only a cable network devoted to mostly showing off Trump's greatness and monetizing his name could satisfy those appetites. And Roger Ailes happens to be without one to run.

[longship]

4. What other choice does he have?

And no Donald, voter fraud is not a big problem, let alone any problem whatsoever. Sounds like something from the Department of Make Shit Up Department, in other words, the GOP.

[Cartoonist]

5. My advice to Donna

Get over it!

[MoonRiver]

6. Who cares what that freak does?

[underpants]

7. Again, HOW?

This reminds of the scene in "Dave" when Frank Langella's VP character think he has all the angles on "Dave" covered and Bill Mitchell tells the truth exposing the VP. CUT TO NEXT SCENE - Langella's is alone. Everyone at his "victory party" has bailed.

The only people left around Trump will be his children and Melania. We're not exactly talking a bunch a brain trust of ideas there.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. Nah. Trump will have jew-hater Bannon, woman-hater Ailes, and Ghouliani with him.

Melania's presence at the final bash is not assured.

[Kablooie]

8. Of course. Why does anyone believe anything he says?

His word means nothing. He's demonstrated that over and over again his whole life.
I don't understand why is followers think he will do what he says. There's no history to back that up. His whims change hourly.

[Iliyah]

10. A true testament of a man who wants complete and unlimited power.

[RKP5637]

11. In Trump's delusional unstable mind of an alternative reality, it's hard to tell what he thinks as

he is sooooo perpetually confused! ... either drugs or early dementia with his streams of rambling incoherent sentences, speech patterns and body language.

[Mme. Defarge]

12. Why are we not surprised?

Ideally, of course, he would not accept the election results if he were elected.

[apcalc]

13. "Won't accept it"? Means what?

He'll keep campaigning for some imaginary vote? He'll try to move into the White House?
He'll contact Paul Ryan, work with him to pass and meaninglessly sign laws?
He'll go cry in the corner? Go on a coke binge? Ask people to shoot Clinton?

Seriously....wtf

[tblue37]

33. He will try to rile his fans up to violence. He has proven his skill at that. nt

[Blue Idaho]

14. Maybe he could set up the New Confederacy

Declare Montgomery to be his capital city and wait for the Yankees to burn the south to the ground again.

[workinclasszero]

15. His fan base would love it

make it a reality show, freepers would eat it up.

[Blue Idaho]

17. Maybe we could get them all to move to Stinkville

Mississippi - then I would actually be in favor of building a wall... around them...

[DFW]

16. Trump must have been reading about Georges Marchais

Marchais was the head of the PCF (French Communist Party) who lived in a luxurious villa and was once asked if he would cede power peacefully if he were ever to be elected president of France, and then lose a subsequent election

Marchais answered, "why would anyone ever vote us out of office?"


I trust America will prove to be sane enough never to have to ask Trump that same question.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

18. I wouldn't be surprised to see him attempt to

hold a "counter inauguration", and even appoint a cabinet. I'd hope he'd then fade into totally deserved obscurity, but I wouldn't count on it.

[workinclasszero]

19. Well the stinking republicans obstructed president Obama from day one, and still are

I expect more of the same with President H. Clinton unfortunately.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

24. Unfortunately, yes.

And given that Hillary Clinton has extremely high negatives, if Republicans retain control of the House, it won't be very hard for them to stir up serious dislike of a President Hillary Clinton.

We can only hope that strong disgust for Trump and the Republicans who are supporting him will result in many more Democrats being elected this November.

[LuvLoogie]

30. What extremely high negatives would those be?

Do you have list?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

35. So far as I understand it, fully 51% of voters

view here negatively.

That's high. Luckily for us, 61% of voters view the Donald negatively.

It is very important that we understand that many people are going to be voting for her with little enthusiasm because the alternative is so incredibly worse. Equally important, we can't take her winning in November for granted. Nor a smooth transition to the White House, especially if Trump (as he no doubt will) pulls shit about the election being stolen and tries to claim he "won't abide by" the results.

And unless the Democrats pull off substantial gains in both the House and the Senate, she will face every bit as much obstruction as Obama did.

[LuvLoogie]

36. View her negatively based on what?

What are those extremely high negatives?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

37. I was looking at a poll earlier today,

one linked from here on DU (and unfortunately I don't recall which one it was) and the simple question: do you have a positive or a negative view of the candidate was asked. That's the negativity.

If you are thinking that now that Hillary Clinton is the nominee that all is wonderful and happy among those who will be voting for her, you are sadly mistaken.

We don't want DY to become a bubble that blocks out the real world out there. In the real world a lot of people still don't like her, and you can't just chalk it up to misogyny and shrug it off. Whatever the root cause, it's very real.

[LuvLoogie]

39. People on DU are well aware that people don't like Hillary.

People come to DU and state that dislike often. I am asking you to articulate these extremely high negatives you speak of. Be concrete.

What are Hillary's negatives?

A lot of people don't like Brussels Sprouts, either. I love them.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

41. I am sure that if I start listing exactly

what her negatives are, someone will alert because it will appear that I am trashing Hillary. I suspect you know exactly what those negatives are and don't need me to name them. However if you don't know what they are, I'm sure a little on-line research on your part will be helpful.

[GWC58]

21. He'd be a

"Real nowhere man living in his nowhere land..."

[saltpoint]

32. : ) eom

[HipChick]

20. Based on the way things are going for him, he may be in jail..

so there might be a few things he is going to have to accept

[Rocknrule]

22. This

orange-skinned, daughter-banging, tween-raping, violence-inciting, shit-stirring, hatemongering, handicapped-insulting, white supremacist, serial marrying, bigotry-validating, pathologically-lying, neo-Nazi-energizing, tax-cheating, draft-dodging, Putin-fellating, shitstain of a human being can't go away soon enough

[Generic Brad]

23. Good luck to him trying to move into the White House

He may not accept the results, but the Secret Service and the military will.

[mountain grammy]

25. He's going to sue us all, every American who didn't vote for him

the stupid, crazy rat bastard. Geez,, I hate this man.

[arthritisR_US]

26. Children have difficulty accepting no for an answer. nt

[MattP]

27. He already rejects Obama as President so nothing new

[saltpoint]

29. I think Clinton-Kaine carries this election,

and I hope by a resoundingly large margin.

Trump can trot out all the lawyers he wants, but if he loses, he loses, and there is no real way forward from that loss.

It might be refreshing for Trump to start behaving like a grown-up instead of like a pugnacious dick.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. He has a choice: Litigate it, foment a pitchfork & torch rebellion, or look deep inside & accept it.

Guaranteed it will not be the last option.

He might try a scorched earth policy and try to make the obstructionism against Obama look tame.

He might try to split the Grumpy Old Paleface party and lick his wounds reminiscing about his Twitter-hall Putsch.

He might write "Mein Twitter Struggle" in his jail cell serving time on tax evasion, bribery, charity fraud, candidate declaration form fraud, and embargo busting, and plot there a Trump 2.0 with Roger "Goebels" Ailes, Roger "Himmler" Stone, and Stephen "Heydrich" Bannon.

He might be busy with a fire sale of assets when Putin pulls the strings of his Russian oligarchs and calls in tRump's loans.

He might end up selling toy jet planes in infomercials on late-night TV.

[LeftRant]

34. One more lie we'll have unassailable video of.

Please proceed, Douchebag.

[Jamaal510]

38. He doesn't have to

accept the results; he just has to get out of the way for the adults and to put a lid on it.

[Renew Deal]

40. It doesn't matter. She still would have won