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Related: About this forumCNN’s Jake Tapper: should Trump really “be casting aspersions on the marriages of anyone else?”
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/3/13149254/jake-tapper-trump-clinton-marriageCNNs Jake Tapper: should Trump really be casting aspersions on the marriages of anyone else?
Tapper asked if Trumps latest attack on Clinton is normal, stable behavior for a presidential nominee.
Updated by German Lopez @germanrlopez german.lopez@vox.com Oct 3, 2016, 12:50p
CNN anchor Jake Tapper seemed genuinely shocked at what Donald Trump said over the weekend.
On Saturday night, Trump said, I dont even think [Hillary Clinton]s loyal to Bill if you want to know the truth. And really, folks, really, why should she be, right?
In an interview with Trump surrogate and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Tapper called the comments a wild and unsubstantiated attack.
Tapper then grilled Giuliani as he tried to defend Trump. The transcript is really worth reading in full (via Media Matters):
TAPPER: Mr. Mayor, is that normal, stable behavior for a presidential nominee to launch an unsubstantiated attack?
GIULIANI: After she called him a racist, a misogynist, xenophobic I don't know schizophrenic, and I don't know what else she called him at the end of that debate, I think its fair game.
TAPPER: Just to make stuff up? Just wild accusations Hillary Clintons cheating on Bill? No proof of it whatsoever? Everythings fair game?
GIULIANI: That was a sarcastic remark pointing out that Bill Clinton has, you know, quite a past and Hillary Clinton has done quite a job on attacking the people who were victims of Bill Clinton. And not only that, she poses as a feminist and shes taken money from countries that stone women, kill women, have women
TAPPER: Bill Clinton is not the nominee, sir. Bill Clinton is not the nominee. And this is my last question for you: Is the Trump campaign, is Donald Trump and the people around Donald Trump really the ones to be casting aspersions on the marriages of anyone else?
GIULIANI: It isnt the marriage; its the way she goes on the attack and tries to hurt victims of sexual predations. She is the one that says victims should be taken seriously.
TAPPER: That wasnt about her marriage? Him saying that shes not loyal to Bill isnt about her marriage?
GIULIANI: I am saying the problem with Hillary Clinton has nothing to do as far as I'm concerned with her marriage. Its her protection of Bill Clinton for 20 or 25 years against allegations of rape, taking advantage of an intern, and going on the attack and trying to make those women appear to be insane in some cases. Also, its her posing as a feminist and taking millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, from countries that kill women, stone women, dont allow women to drive, dont allow women to have rights, and use women as property.
TAPPER: I mean, I just find it hard to believe that Mr. Trump would want to start leveling accusations about peoples marriages. But thats all the time we have, Mr. Mayor.
GIULIANI: I think the accusations are about Hillary Clinton taking money from countries
TAPPER: The accusation was that Hillary Clinton was cheating on Bill. Thats what the accusation was. It was an unhinged and wild accusation. I can understand why you cant defend it because its indefensible.
GIULIANI: After she called him a racist, a misogynist, xenophobic I don't know schizophrenic, and I don't know what else she called him at the end of that debate, I think its fair game.
TAPPER: Just to make stuff up? Just wild accusations Hillary Clintons cheating on Bill? No proof of it whatsoever? Everythings fair game?
GIULIANI: That was a sarcastic remark pointing out that Bill Clinton has, you know, quite a past and Hillary Clinton has done quite a job on attacking the people who were victims of Bill Clinton. And not only that, she poses as a feminist and shes taken money from countries that stone women, kill women, have women
TAPPER: Bill Clinton is not the nominee, sir. Bill Clinton is not the nominee. And this is my last question for you: Is the Trump campaign, is Donald Trump and the people around Donald Trump really the ones to be casting aspersions on the marriages of anyone else?
GIULIANI: It isnt the marriage; its the way she goes on the attack and tries to hurt victims of sexual predations. She is the one that says victims should be taken seriously.
TAPPER: That wasnt about her marriage? Him saying that shes not loyal to Bill isnt about her marriage?
GIULIANI: I am saying the problem with Hillary Clinton has nothing to do as far as I'm concerned with her marriage. Its her protection of Bill Clinton for 20 or 25 years against allegations of rape, taking advantage of an intern, and going on the attack and trying to make those women appear to be insane in some cases. Also, its her posing as a feminist and taking millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, from countries that kill women, stone women, dont allow women to drive, dont allow women to have rights, and use women as property.
TAPPER: I mean, I just find it hard to believe that Mr. Trump would want to start leveling accusations about peoples marriages. But thats all the time we have, Mr. Mayor.
GIULIANI: I think the accusations are about Hillary Clinton taking money from countries
TAPPER: The accusation was that Hillary Clinton was cheating on Bill. Thats what the accusation was. It was an unhinged and wild accusation. I can understand why you cant defend it because its indefensible.
As Tapper said, theres no evidence that Clinton cheated on her husband. We know Bill cheated on Hillary, and Trump cheated on his first of three wives with his second wife. Yet Trump has apparently decided to try this new baseless attack anyway.
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CNN’s Jake Tapper: should Trump really “be casting aspersions on the marriages of anyone else?” (Original Post)
babylonsister
Oct 2016
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PJMcK
(22,035 posts)1. Push back
It almost makes you think Jake Tapper is a journalist.
ETA: Keep it up, Mr. Tapper.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)2. Welcome to the shovel brigade Rudy!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)3. This is a deversion from Trump talking about policies he does not have.
The minds of men who have strayed in their marriages and think they are normal. Trump's thinking is sick.
MagickMuffin
(15,937 posts)4. Rudy was a cheater himself
So, of course he thinks men cheating on their wives is a natural thing to do! Just ask Donna Hanover!
From Wiki:
By 1980, Donna Hanover had moved to Miami, Florida;[4] it was when she was working as an anchor[6] at Miami's WSVN that she met Giuliani. The couple moved in together in 1982 while Giuliani was still married to his first wife, but they had been separated since 1976.
By 1997 there were published reports of his having an affair with mayoral aide Cristyne Lategano,[10] and by 2000 with Judith Nathan.
On the evening after announcing his cancer diagnosis, reporters observed Rudy Giuliani having "a romantic dinner" with Judith Nathan, the woman who would be identified as his lover.[15] Just one more week later, Giuliani announced that he and Hanover were officially separated at a press conference on May 10. Giuliani had neglected to tell Hanover either of his decision or of the press conference and moments later, with cameras taping her reaction, reporters at her residence apparently shocked her with this info and she was visibly distraught by the unexpected news.
Glass Houses and ALL!