Was the pre-debate poll tightening a "dead cat bounce" for Trump?

[yellowcanine]

I am thinking there was a lot of soft Trump support building up before the debate based on the expectation that Trump would at least clear the low bar of "acceptability." When that failed spectacularly, the dead cat settled back to earth. The only question is where the bottom actually is. Nationally I think it is less than 40%. In battleground states it may be around 35%. Time will tell.

[apnu]

1. 35% seems about right.

Let's not forget that even when W screwed up the most and the nation boiled with Anger at him (see Hurricane Katrina), something like 1/3 of the nation still backed the Chimp. That's how many Americans around who will believe anything a conservative says. They're such rubes, anybody who claims to be a conservative, and has vague speech and mannerisms of the typical conservative are believed to be conservative by this 33% class of rubes.

Look at Trump. He is clearly no conservative. He says whatever he thinks will gain him access to whomever he's talking to. He's a con-artist, but the rubes believe him when he says he's a conservative.

Its crazy so many Americans are this easily duped.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. Bush was less than 20%

His lowest approval ratings were in the high teens.

Trump is desperate, he keeps screwing up badly(Sex tape, Trump Foundation, PTSD, Taxes) and then his side tries to make Hillary talking about Bernie supporters being frustrated as any type of issue. Hillary probably shouldn't have said her deplorable comment, but her fainting was all that led to his "surge". That was a bad look for her and the media was waiting to pounce on it. If Trump is waiting for another Hilary issue to arise he's going to keep waiting, she's running a tight campaign.