2016 Postmortem
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If we're going to have an "off night" the VP debate is the one to have it on.
Quick, who was Bob Dole's Running Mate and how did he do in the debate?
Wish Kaine would have taken a class from Hillary as she'd be shreading Pence.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Mike Pence is no Jack Kemp.
I actually met him, very nice man and one of the long gone "Good Republicans" and I was in St. Petersburg for that debate!
My point is that Pence can hit this one out of the park (he's not, he's winning but this is far from a knockout) and it wouldn't matter.
Hillary can (and is) winning this on her own.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It was near universal halfway through the debate that Hillary was kicking Trump's ass. The fact many here feel Pence is winning, even with their blinders on, tells me Kaine is losing.
Jason1961
(413 posts)Pence is running for the nomination of his party in 2020 and is off to a good start.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It's not a disaster of a performance like with Ryan four years ago but it's not convincing me Kaine will ever be at the top of the ticket.
Jason1961
(413 posts)This is the highest point in his career. He will not be our nominee in 2024.
Jason1961
(413 posts)I was being polite, if anyone here knows Kaine knows that this is how he is in real life. I really feel for his staff, while they'd never tell you, they hate working for him.
This isn't an off night, this is Kaine being Kaine.
Pence is starting the campaign for his party's nomination in 2020 and Kaine is lucky to be running with Hillary.
We're still going to win the election in a landslide.