2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNY Times: Dem and GOP private polls show Trump cratering
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lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Sure, I've disliked other candidates but to despise one is a new feeling for me. It does have me energized to #GOTV.
RonniePudding
(889 posts)And you can see the beginnings of the deplorables in this clip from a 2008 McCain rally in Denver. Rotten children making ape noises as they walk past Obama supporters while their ignorant, mouth breathing parents chortle. I'm glad this 8 year old clip is still on YouTube, and I hope the miserable people shown in it have thoroughly enjoyed the last 8 years.
George II
(67,782 posts)Nitram
(22,890 posts)Bush focused so intently on his pet projects of missile defense and invading Iraq that he allowed 9/11 to happen, killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, put the nation Trillions in debt, instituted torture as government policy, suppressed reports by government scientists that supported climate change, never offered clemency to anyone on Death Row no matter how deserving while governor of Texas, refused to fund AIDS projects in Africa if condoms were encouraged or sex workers were involved, let New Orleans drown, possibly stole both of his elections - need I continue?
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)but Trump is. He makes Junior look almost presidential by comparison.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)And it peaked when the news showed his election night celebration with a small gathering of white people in suits, dresses and tuxedos sipping mixed drinks. That whole election was the 1% vs. the rest of us. This one doesn't feel that way to me: it's more the U.S. vs. the Tea Party nuts.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)How could any person of goodwill support Trump?
It just cannot be.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)what (I hope) is coming for this creature?
perhaps there is Karma......
getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)he is holding ~$50m in the campaign warchest. No doubt he expects to leave with that money and spend it on himself over time.
He will just claim business and personal trips as campaig expenses. As well as legal bills, and it is sheltered from creditors.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,217 posts).
Scientists now fear that a cataclysm looms as catastrophic weather events, storm surges, and supertyphoons increase in frequency. Locals and scientists worry the Runit Dome could crack wide open, and dump its contamination directly into the Pacific - which would inevitably head towards the Marianas.
Already, large quantities of plutonium - left behind by after the US concluded testing - have gradually submerged, a result of rising sea levels driven by climate change. The US Department of Energy takes no responsibility for the radioactive materials already leaching out of the dome, which tests confirm, has made the soil around the dome more contaminated than its contents.
http://guamblog.tumblr.com/post/123197105468/dome-of-doom
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0rganism
(23,970 posts)underpants
(182,884 posts)Jay Bergman, a petroleum executive and Republican donor from Illinois, said his fellow contributors were no longer optimistic that Mr. Trump will win, and they have lowered their sights. They want the guy to make a credible showing, he said. Theyre afraid that if Trump really screws up and looks bad, then down-ticket, there are going to be a lot more votes for Democrats.
If Mrs. Clinton wins, putting Tim Kaine, as vice president, there to break a tie, Democrats would need four seats to take control of the Senate. Officials in both parties see Republican incumbents in Wisconsin and Illinois as likely to lose, so Democrats would need to just two more pickups to capture the majority if they retain the rest of their seats.
Republicans worry that Mr. Trumps difficulties in New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, where Republican incumbents are caught between their own base and moderate voters appalled by the partys nominee, could hand Democrats those decisive seats. Senator Kelly Ayotte, the Republican up for re-election in New Hampshire, demonstrated the vise she is in this week when she said at a debate that Mr. Trump would represent a good role model for children, only to recant a few hours later.
klook
(12,167 posts)By Harry Enten
Filed under 2016 Election
The presidential election is sucking up everyones attention, but make no mistake: Control of the next United States Senate remains very much in doubt.
Democrats currently have a 57 percent chance of winning a Senate majority according to our polls-plus forecast and a 56 percent chance in polls-only. Those numbers have been fairly consistent since the conventions. In our polls-plus forecast, for instance, Democratic chances have never dropped below 52 percent and have never risen above 73 percent.1
To control the Senate, the Democrats need a net gain of four seats (they hold 46 seats now) if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency or five seats if Donald Trump wins. Right now, they have at least a 75 percent chance of winning currently Republican seats in Illinois and Wisconsin. The bigger question is whether they can win any three of the following seven seats: Florida, Indiana, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina and Pennsylvania.
More: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/senate-update-6-really-important-races-are-really-close/
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)RonniePudding
(889 posts)Early voting is in full swing.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)rpannier
(24,339 posts)It''s HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE
nikto
(3,284 posts)Here's a Tycho for a psycho ...
mobeau69
(11,156 posts)If there's a god it should get worse.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)so many people newly aware and gawking. And Trump's has such an astonishing range of shocking behaviors. He's kind of an equal-opportunity appaller.
(Wonder how many in his own Ne-VAH-dah audience had their own version of an on-the-spot epiphany?)
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,997 posts)i do think i made her smile w/ one of my cracks on RUMP. had a GOP push poll the other day. love those.
Cosmocat
(14,574 posts)I live in PA.
It was kind of absurd.
The poll had 6 questions, the first 5 were simple, straightforward questions about the presidential race. Ex. If the election was today was would you vote for 1) Hillary Clinton 2) Donald Trump 3) Johnson.
The last "question" was this long winded diatribe about McGintey, something along the lines of "are you aware that McGintey was the spawn of satan, beats puppies, tears the tag off of her pillows ..."
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,519 posts)They seem to forget Indiana - where incumbent GOPer Coats is losing badly to Evan Bayh (who was Senator there before) -
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/indiana/
So when they talk about 4 potential pickups and mention IL, WI, PA, & NH, there is a 5th from IN and it seems to have a stronger polling advantage than even my own state of PA or NH.
PA - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/pennsylvania/
NH - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/new-hampshire/
The tossup out there is of course Harry Reid's seat in NV - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/nevada/
NC & MO would be icing on the cake however!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,519 posts)and was right on the threshold of having a chance against a then-popular racist fuck. I am hoping that NC is ready now!
And with McCaskill having won MO previously, the potential is there for the other seat, although it seems that the urban areas (notably St. Louis and its neighboring suburbs) need to really really get motivated to start making a difference. It took such a major effort to wake up sleepy entrenched Ferguson to get involved and have some say in their own sordid town's affairs. It has been slow but at least they have made some baby steps and hopefully that engagement will start making a difference for them, and serve as an example for other towns like that.
llmart
(15,555 posts)Got mercilessly picked on at work by Helms' supporters when they saw my Harvey Gantt bumper sticker on my car. It didn't help that I was a transplanted Yankee
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,519 posts)Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)perpetrated by libs to get you to stay home on election day.
Cakes488
(874 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,717 posts)they seem to know what they're doing, and are less likely to distort reality to make the candidate feel good.
Maybe the Repubs learned something from 08/12 but Trump, being an outsider, probably wouldn't pay much attention to his own internal polling. Not to mention his ego, giving him bad news must be a bit like the Hitler bunker scene out there on the internets. That's the big problem with an autocrat at the top who won't accept bad news, he drags the whole system down.
We're about to see how deep the Repub party can sink and try to come back.
The big difference in temperament between Trump and Clinton? When they get bad news, Clinton digs deeper and looks for solutions. Trump is more likely to shoot the messenger, figuratively, I hope.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)Not that I'm 100% confident, but I feel much better after Trump's last week. He IS cratering. Just listen to his rally on Saturday night and what he said about going to the movies. He is truly losing him mind. I really believe that. After the movie comments he non sequitur'd off to another absurd discourse on The Apprentice. WTF?????
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/02/as-news-of-trumps-taxes-broke-he-goes-off-script-at-a-rally-in-pennsylvania/
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)But not anymore.
Ardoewaan
(144 posts)Gothmog
(145,567 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,299 posts)Run out the clock
bucolic_frolic
(43,299 posts)that the outcome of this election if it stands as it is today
is that Trump will be blamed. It's the whole rotten GOP
ideology to the core, the decades of billionaire economic interests
lobbied into ideology, tax codes, policies, hatred, and intolerance
that produced Trump, but he will be blamed, not that he doesn't
deserve it. But blaming Trump allows the Tea Party ideology to morph
and set in concrete in Congress and become opposition to HRC.
They're already working on it by saying she should appoint a Scalia-
clone for the Court, because that's a conservative seat.
THere is no end to their delusions.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)all these repukes fleeing Trump now, as if they did not help create this mess
NBachers
(17,142 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)There will be more. Clinton's campaign has been flawless at metering the release of endorsements, policy and attacks. It will take all of our help, but I really feel she's got this.
geretogo
(1,281 posts)jung Ill would welcome them as comrades and they would feel more at home there .
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)JDC
(10,133 posts)Although a little off topic, the NYT photo of the Trump prayer circle is priceless. I can only imagine what is going thorough that rattle-can brain of his at that very moment. Thanks for the link(s).
Retired George
(332 posts)Crash and burn.