One of Pence's lies: the Clinton Foundation keeps 90% of donations for itself.

[Jim__]

I realize DUers know this is a lie, but I heard it repeated by Ed Klein - an anti-Clinton crazy - on the Dennis Praeger show today. It's a common lie among the right. Where does it come from? From FactCheck.org:

Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina says that “so little” of the charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation “actually go to charitable works” — a figure CARLY for America later put at about 6 percent of its annual revenues — but Fiorina is simply wrong.

Fiorina and others are referring only to the amount donated by the Clinton Foundation to outside charities, ignoring the fact that most of the Clinton Foundation’s charitable work is performed in-house. One independent philanthropy watchdog did an analysis of Clinton Foundation funding and concluded that about 89 percent of its funding went to charity.

Simply put, despite its name, the Clinton Foundation is not a private foundation — which typically acts as a pass-through for private donations to other charitable organizations. Rather, it is a public charity. It conducts most of its charitable activities directly.

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[Gothmog]

1. The Clinton Foundation is an operating foundation and spends money on its own programs

[Arkansas Granny]

2. That has been explained many times, but people believe what they want to, regardless of facts.

[Hortensis]

3. Only people who want to believe would something so ridiculous.

Who'd knowingly donate to a charity that kept even 30% donations for itself?

[Nye Bevan]

4. It's rated A by CharityWatch and 4 stars out of 4 by Charity Navigator:

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680

which is more than can be said for most charities.

[beachbumbob]

5. The most egregious lie of the debate....

As the fact is completely opposite.

[TonyPDX]

6. but . . . but . . . but . . . he's a christian!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. He's a Dominionist christian first & foremost. They want power. Period. Facts & theology be damned.

Any means to their end.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

7. I'm not sure, but I think that deception might have started from National Review.

Then Limbaugh and others repeated it.

The CF uses an accounting technique (mentioned in fact-checking sites) that can make part of its tax forms look more self-serving than charitable, so the conservative propagandists latched onto a tax form to promote their typical baseless slander.

More than a return to "The Fairness Doctrine," I wish we had some kind of "Honesty Doctrine" in place for our media! On a related note, an Ohio judge ruled earlier this year that political ads can no longer be pulled for LIES... in the supposed interest of "freedom of speech."

UGH! I won't be surprised if conservatives someday try to force science journals to print articles that don't measure up to scientific scrutiny... in the supposed interest of "free speech."

[Coyotl]

8. One of Pence's many, many lies during the debate.

Every time he denied Trump said something was a lie.

[DesertRat]

9. k&r

[Gabi Hayes]

11. why isn't there a thread compiling pence's myriad lies? here's a good one:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/05/mike_pence_s_infuriating_debate_performance_in_one_video.html

Watch Mike Pence Lie to You

Had we all simply imagined that Trump had called Mexican immigrants “rapists,” called women too many horrible insults to list (though Kaine tried), said he wants to get rid of the minimum wage, refused to release his taxes, insulted a former Miss Universe on Twitter, said John McCain wasn’t a war hero, led the birther movement, promised to deport all undocumented immigrants, refused to reveal his plan to fight ISIS, said that NATO is obsolete, said that more countries should have nuclear weapons, promised to ban all Muslim immigrants from entering the United States, praised Vladimir Putin as a strong leader, commented that veterans who committed suicide “couldn’t handle it,” said that Russia hadn’t invaded Ukraine when it had, to name a few? Pence’s words and body language continuously denied that any of this stuff had happened. “Most of what you said is completely false,” Pence argued at one point after Kaine had said a bunch of true things. “And the American people know that. This isn’t the old days where you can just say stuff and be believed.” Wait a second. What?


Mike Pence just gaslit the American people, and it looks like he’s going to get away with it. Still, we at Slate tried to pull together all the head shakes, scoffs, “absolutely nots,” and outright rejections of reality that we could find during the debate into one video. That video ran at a length of more than 15 minutes, or about one-sixth of the entire program. Since that is way too long to force anybody to watch Mike Pence’s smirking, lying face, we cut it down to a more manageable if less comprehensive three minutes and 51 seconds. So, above are many of (if not all) the times Pence tried to make us think we were crazy for believing Donald Trump did and said things that we saw him do and heard him say. It’s a lot of times.

this kind of stuff deserves a thread of its own. a big kudos ('kudos' is singular, btw; it's Greek) to Slate. too bad the media played its role in supporting the fascistas once again, by ignoring the panoply of lies Doc Savage pumped out. what a surprise