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Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:14 PM

Wikileaks Appears To Release Hillary Clinton’s Paid Speech Transcripts

by Ruby Cramer at Buzz Feed

https://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/wikileaks-appears-to-release-hillary-clintons-paid-speech-tr?utm_term=.htANqRDJDZ#.evQ6RkWxWV

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The speech transcripts, a major subject of contention during the Democratic primary, include quotes from Clinton about her distance from middle-class life (“I’m kind of far removed”); her vision of strategic governing (“you need both a public and a private position”); and her views on Wall Street, health care, and trade (“my dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders”).

John Podesta, the Clinton campaign chairman, was the latest victim in a wave of hacks on key figures in Democratic politics and the political establishment in what administration officials say is an effort by Russia to undermine the election.

The excerpts came in an email to Podesta and other senior officials from research director Tony Carrk, sourcing the “flags” to the Harry Walker Agency, which represented Clinton’s paid speech deals after she left the State Department in 2013.

During the Democratic primary, Sen. Bernie Sanders repeatedly pressed Clinton to release the transcripts of the speeches, which were delivered to a variety of groups — including investment banks like Goldman Sachs.



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Reply Wikileaks Appears To Release Hillary Clinton’s Paid Speech Transcripts (Original post)
applegrove Oct 2016 OP
NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #1
applegrove Oct 2016 #2
Post removed Oct 2016 #3
radius777 Oct 2016 #7
Trenzalore Oct 2016 #8
NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #10
Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #4
smorkingapple Oct 2016 #5
NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #13
Snotcicles Oct 2016 #16
randome Oct 2016 #17
Tarheel_Dem Oct 2016 #27
geek tragedy Oct 2016 #6
Trenzalore Oct 2016 #9
radius777 Oct 2016 #11
applegrove Oct 2016 #15
Ghost Dog Oct 2016 #31
radius777 Oct 2016 #36
uponit7771 Oct 2016 #32
Cakes488 Oct 2016 #12
Agschmid Oct 2016 #14
nolabear Oct 2016 #18
KK9 Oct 2016 #24
wishstar Oct 2016 #19
uponit7771 Oct 2016 #33
radius777 Oct 2016 #20
nolabear Oct 2016 #26
tinrobot Oct 2016 #21
GoCubsGo Oct 2016 #22
Cakes488 Oct 2016 #23
DemonGoddess Oct 2016 #25
bmstee01 Oct 2016 #28
vdogg Oct 2016 #29
bmstee01 Oct 2016 #30
randome Oct 2016 #35
Eugene Oct 2016 #34
BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #37
LoverOfLiberty Oct 2016 #38

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:23 PM

1. To me, I don't care about the speeches and don't intend to read them

 

When someone is hired to give a speech to an audience it is typically tailored to the audience.

For myself I sort of have two unique public and private views on some issues, too...like abortion. For myself personally, I believe it is murder and I could never do it under any circumstances. That is the standard I have had for myself. However, politically I am pro-choice because I believe abortion must be legal in order to be regulated and because for some people in some cases it may be the best choice. I hate that it's used as after the fact birth control as well. My point here is that it's not abnormal to have personal views that differ from your public positions. The example I gave is a good example how that can happen.

So yeah...speech transcripts don't matter to me. Hillary is the best choice this time around and she has my vote, period.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:25 PM

2. Better it come out now. It might actually garner some independant votes in the end. But we don't

know.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:29 PM

7. Howard Dean for Senate ;)

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Response to Post removed (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:30 PM

8. Bernie is coming to PA next week to rally for her

It was slower than I wanted him to but he has been nothing but a good soldier since July.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:32 PM

10. No, it's time for unite and keep that damn cheeto out of power

 

This is NOT the time to vote for anyone other than the Democratic nominee, period.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:28 PM

4. This is great for her

Read the text, she is totally preaching to them about being fair. It was excellent.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:28 PM

5. Expect the open borders thing to get major play....

Got her openly saying it now... That's not a good look...

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Response to smorkingapple (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:37 PM

13. Hillary or Trump will be president. Hillary on her worst day is a million times better than Trump.

 

No one else has a snowball's chance in hell of winning. I have never cared much for Hillary and at one point really disliked her. Know what...I'm voting for Hillary come hell or high water because Trump is that repulsive and disgusting that I'd vote for a steaming pile of dog shit over him.

The only people who care about this are Trump supporters who are on a witch hunt. No one else gives a flying fart.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:44 PM

16. Sunshine is still the best disinfectant. nt

 

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Response to smorkingapple (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:45 PM

17. Sorry, but protectionism and 'America First!' belongs to last century. This is the 21st.

 

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to smorkingapple (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:48 PM

27. The people who have a problem with that statement were never going to vote for Hillary, nor...

indeed any Democrat.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:29 PM

6. lol. nobody cares nt

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:31 PM

9. Did she talk about her joy of grabbing stranger's Penises?

Because literally that is what you would need to beat the news cycle the next week.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:34 PM

11. How do we know this is authentic?

Many of these hacked documents/pics/audio are then altered to make it look like a scandal.

One thing that irks me is why aren't Dems taking much greater measures to prevent hacking, when they know they are under attack from the Russian, alt-right, alt-left, etc.

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Response to radius777 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:42 PM

15. We don't know for sure. That is why the BuzzFeed title was ambiguous.

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Response to radius777 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:25 PM

31. Can you please provide an example

of a leaked or hacked document published by Wikileaks that has been altered or is otherwise inauthentic?

Thanks.

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:36 PM

36. Maybe all of them are, there's no way to know.

Hacking groups are criminal organizations, that have an agenda, thus there is no real way to know what is real and what isn't.

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Response to radius777 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:27 PM

32. We don't and until they show they are then fuck them, I'd deny them and call em fake till the cows

... came home

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:35 PM

12. So now Trashpot can release his taxes

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:40 PM

14. I don't think this is what some people expected.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:45 PM

18. I scanned them. There's nothing there.

No big secrets, no bombshells. Admitting she's a bit removed from the middle class is a revelation? Saying things go on in back rooms is a big deal?

Of course next to bragging about sexually assaulting women few things have that resounding thud.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:30 PM

24. Agreed...

I've been skimming them, and reading some bits quite carefully.

There is no "October Surprise" hidden in there. The contents would have been more "exciting" (not really, but some Bernie supporters could have culled some, out of context, "sound bites" from them, not that it would have changed the big picture) during the primaries. But, in the current context? A big, fat, NOTHING.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:53 PM

19. No smoking guns there- she sounds very reasonable

Several things we have already heard about:

Lagging State Dept govt technology she discovered upon becoming Sec of State and precautions she and staffers had to take to prevent security breaches while traveling overseas.

Need for Wall St. insiders to lead reforms while praising Teddy Roosevelt.

She strongly advocates for moving ACA towards single payer

While admitting to having a privileged life far removed from middle class, she says she still remembers her childhood that wasn't affluent

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Response to wishstar (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:29 PM

33. "She strongly advocates for moving ACA towards single payer" ... that's the bombshell ...

... she's saying in private what I always thought she'd want to do.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:55 PM

20. I read the article, some of it sounds made up,

especially the "game is rigged" type quotes, which only came into popular usage during the primaries, it just sounds like someone trying to split Dems added that language.

Much of this is very measured, sensible and consistent with the views of a moderate center-left Democrat, which Hillary/Bill/Obama are, and which I think most actual rank-and-file Dems (as opposed to alt-left hipsters, many of whom are not Dems) agree with. After all, it is an approach that has won Dems 5 of the last 6 presidential election popular votes, with the only popular vote loss (in 2004) still a close election.

The idea should always be a balance between main street and wall street that works to grow the economy and uplift the middle class, as Bill Clinton did in the 90's.

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Response to radius777 (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:34 PM

26. That's what was bugging me! It's very much post-primary language.

It absolutely sounds manufactured.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:57 PM

21. Assange picked the wrong day to release that "bombshell"

With the hurricane and Trump's lewd tape, this will get buried quickly.

Besides, there's probably nothing in the transcripts anyways.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:05 PM

22. Whatever.

Unless it contain sort of lewdness that was contained in the latest Trump recording, not many people are going to care. And, unless somebody recorded her speech and wrote down what she said, there are no "transcripts." Nobody brings in a stenographer to record speeches. That is the kind of thing you find in a court of law, not in a speech to a corporation, or anyone else. And, if there ARE recordings, you can bet everything you own that they would have been made public months and months ago.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:08 PM

23. Who Cares!!! Trashpot is in the CRAPPER...and I'm loving it...!!!!!!

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:34 PM

25. Don't give a damn about the transcripts

She was paid to give speeches as a private citizen. So what?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:56 PM

28. It could be false

If it's not. It tells me a few things.
1. She acknowledges she is removed from the middle class. That's why it was important for her to go on her listening tour and really understand the issues facing Americans.
2. Public and private views. There are things that no President or official can say publicly. That's not news.
3. Hemispheric open borders. That's not a bad dream. If there could be a way to trade fairly I'm ok with that. We have to trade. Trade is a good thing.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:00 PM

29. Started reading, got bored.

Some of this stuff may have got traction in the primary, but there are no smoking guns or bombshells. A lot of what's in there are positions that she's taken publicly.

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Response to vdogg (Reply #29)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:17 PM

30. The game is rigged

That to me stands out as something that seems false. I have been a Hillary follower and supporter for years. I have hung on her every word. That just doesn't sound like words that she uses. It just seems very convenient for that phrase to be in there. She just doesn't talk about things in those terms.

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Response to vdogg (Reply #29)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:34 PM

35. See how sneaky she is? Consistency across the board just to catch us off guard!

 


[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:31 PM

34. This is the October Surprise? Completely snowed under by The Dumpster.

Even a Category 4 hurricane comes in second to the groper.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:38 PM

37. Looks about as real as a $3 bill.

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:45 PM

38. Clearly not at the same level as Trump's latest scandal

But its true that Hillary is held to a different standard.

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