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Related: About this forumMitt Romney Says Bill Clinton Told Him Hurricane Sandy Won Obama Election
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WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney claimed during a call with donors on Wednesday that he received a call from former President Bill Clinton, who told Romney that had it not been for Hurricane Sandy, he might have won the election.
ABC News offers the following transcript of the former GOP presidential nominees comments:
I spoke with President Clinton the day before yesterday, he called and spent 30 minutes chatting with me. He said a week out I thought you were going to win. And he said, but the hurricane happened, and it gave the president a chance to be presidential, and to look bipartisan, and you know he got a little more momentum, and of course he also said that when he was watching Ann speak at the Republican convention, he decided he was tempted to join the Republican Party. So he may have just been effusive with generous comments as he chatted.
But the theory that Sandy is accountable for the president's victory is questionable. Little evidence in both national and swing state polling supported the idea that Romney had sustained the momentum he gained following the first presidential debate.
A spokesperson for Clinton did not immediately return a request for. Mitt comment.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/romney-clinton-hurricane-sandy-election_n_2137343.html?ref=topbar
I love Bill Clinton but sometimes he talks too much. <-------- I glanced at this article really fast before posting and reacted to it without thinking. Was Mitt lying? It's highly probable. It's also possible that Clinton was just "laying down some hargle-bargle" as journalist Dave Weigl calls it.
Rider3
(919 posts)This, too, is a lie. Romney cannot get out of his own way to tell the truth. But, hey, if it makes him feel better....
Vox Moi
(546 posts)... excuse me. Book of Mormon.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)I love this story.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)LOL
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)It helps if a candidate can arrange for their opponent to win the nomination. Like in Missouri with Akin.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)WTF are the chances of THAT?
rurallib
(62,423 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)sasha031
(6,700 posts)sandyshoes17
(657 posts)He just couldn't tell this idiot the truth. Or it's a LIE.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)Totally insignificant!
The bright side of his stupid comments lately is that it probably cured Obama of wanting to have a "sit down" with him.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)or won it for President Obama. I keep hearing this over and over again but nobody explains (and nobody asks anybody to explain) how and why. I'm trying to make the connection but I can't. I don't think that Romney was actually "winning" before Sandy hit unless you're talking about the popular vote but the fact that the election wasn't even close should put to the rest that Sandy had anything to do with Romney losing. Romney basically lost because he was an awful candidate.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Let me make this response: Bush did a horrible job handling Katrina. Obama did an excellent job handling Sandy. Sandy reminded people that if they wanted government to work, they better vote for a Democrat, not a Republican.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)and not just in regards to Sandy but when you contrast his response to things like Benghazi to Romney's cheap and reckless attempt to politicize it before the dust had even settled, there should be no contest IMHO.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)indie_voter
(1,999 posts)It doesn't even make any sense. Why would watching Ann speaking at the convention make him tempted to join the party?? ANN? And if a week out Clinton thought Romney would win why would he campaign so effusively for the President?
Keep talking Governor, the more you say the more people realize what a blessing it was you lost.
GETTINGTIRED
(330 posts)Surely he would have said mittwillard lost because The President ...gave so many gifts to blacks and latinos ...oh yeah women too...
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)so he doesn't feel too bad.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)skeewee08
(1,983 posts)Robme......... this coming from a guy who told 28 lies in 30 minutes in the first debate....
fugop
(1,828 posts)Hey Mitt. He was being NICE. Trying to ease your pain. Nice of you to run around and pretend it was some big reveal and that Bill secretly wants to be a Republican because of your wife's speech. Seriously?
What an idjit. We dodged such a cannonball by re-electing Obama. Can anyone imagine this guy in charge?
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Romney's supposed momentum had stopped a week or two earlier.
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)Mitt misses the limelight.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)would anyone assume Romney is telling the truth? I mean, seriously. When has Romney EVER told the truth?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Kookaburra
(2,649 posts)Bill Clinton told me that Mitt Romney is a lying sack of crap.
still_one
(92,219 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)whose name coincidently happens to be Bill Clinton
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)that there is no Easter Bunny!
mzteaze
(448 posts)Was this before or after he reminded you of the rules: Puff, puff...pass and pass the dutchie on the left hand side?
That is the only way I can see you having this kind of conversation with Clinton. Now if you had talked about MATH, I would totally believe you.
SubgeniusHasSlack
(276 posts)Google "lying for the lord" to understand the roots of mitch's sociopathy.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)kansasobama
(609 posts)and a creation from some movie actor....
Whisp
(24,096 posts)he does say some really stupid things.
Much more likely Mitt is just extending his Liar Campaign and looking to ruffle people up.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Pretty sure I'd have gotten a little suspicious that the Big Dawg was having some fun at my expense when he went on to say that Queen Anne's stupid speech about eating off a table made from a door made him want to join the republican party. Bill... c'mon don't fuck with the republicans they have enough of their own people to delude them and fuck with their perceptions of reality.
ksoze
(2,068 posts)Hows that going
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)demhottie
(292 posts)it's such a waste trying to treat Romney like a human being. Who goes and rats out a private conversation like that anyway, even if you ignore his distortions. He can't even take a compliment for his wife without running to cash it in.
PoliticalBiker
(328 posts)... but come on!
Bill Clinton, who has been stumping hard for Obama, calls Mittens and says Obama will lose??!!???!
He must be pouting 'cause he lost.... Bad
Either that or he's nutz...
Another for the Liar-Liar-Pants-on-Fire Wall
Bill better put the Kibosh on that one... Hard!
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Depending on who you listen to.
Indykatie
(3,697 posts)Truth is Bill had a much bigger impact than Sandy and I'm sure Bill knows that so this supposedly comment makes no sense. Even so, we don't know context of comment. Maybe Bill was just trying to make him feel better since I'm sure he's pretty despondent these days. We'll never know.
Cha
(297,318 posts)Poor mittload is trying to make himself feel better and using Bill Clinton among other ways to do it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101779855
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)He has never lied a day of his life.....................
Until he ran for president. Then, everything out of his mouth was a lie. I trust him about as far as I can throw this 50M building I'm sitting in. Bet he's sitting at home with Ann watching Days of our lives. LMAO
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Oh, the guy who's not and never will be President. LOL.
tandot
(6,671 posts)does that mean we won't get any gifts?
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Not something you run and tell the media. It doesn't change the results anyway.
pointsoflight
(1,372 posts)Doesn't matter, we'll thankfully be spared of any more of Romney. His own party will shut him down with the crap he continues to say, and they have no reason to pretend they like him anymore.
JHB
(37,161 posts)"See? Even Bill Clinton says I would have won if not for that meddling storm! I didn't waste your money!"
I wonder if any of them will drop a dime on him to the IRS, or if that violates the Fat Cat Code?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)lied over and over about the same things to different people on different days. in my mind that man is as psychotic as them come.
All he does is smirk after he leaves a podium..he's a TOTAL WHACK JOB. I hope this man gets what is coming to him. Money does NOT buy happiness.
Cha
(297,318 posts)Jones at PoliticusUSA
Snips..
http://www.politicususa.com/mitt-romney-puts-republican-spin-sandy-bill-clintons-mouth.html
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)He was already going to win. It may have been closer, maybe not. Sandy did give him a spotlight a week before the election and made it very difficult for Romney to do anything with out looking like the psychotic clown he is.