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More Good News from Florida Courtesy of Frank Luntz (Original Post) LonePirate Oct 2016 OP
The Twitter comments are hilarious C_U_L8R Oct 2016 #1
Gee maybe a ground game would have helped underpants Oct 2016 #4
Enthusiasm Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #2
Not surprised NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #3
Some other interesting news from Florida - personal anecdote csziggy Oct 2016 #5
A vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump. sunnystarr Oct 2016 #7
In this case the only other candidate they would vote for would be Trump csziggy Oct 2016 #8
A vote for Johnson is a haf vote for Trump and a half vote for Hillary world wide wally Oct 2016 #15
But it should be weighted against that voter's previous voting record. We want Dem voters back. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #17
That would not be helpful. NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #10
Guess it was a perfect storm. sunnystarr Oct 2016 #16
If they're never going to vote for Clinton rpannier Oct 2016 #14
You are exactly right! nt csziggy Oct 2016 #19
I was happy about it too, but FL_Jerry Oct 2016 #6
When my husband goes out to register voters, he wears his Obama shirts from 2008 csziggy Oct 2016 #9
GOP's motto: "when they go high, we go low" bagelsforbreakfast Oct 2016 #11
GOTV Florida!!!!!!!!!!!! Rock the Vote!!!! TeamPooka Oct 2016 #12
That's fantastic!!! ailsagirl Oct 2016 #13
Luntz has a particular fascination with Hillary DFW Oct 2016 #18

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
1. The Twitter comments are hilarious
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:16 AM
Oct 2016

Right wingers in denial spouting one crackpot conspiracy theory after another. It dawned on me that Infowars may actually be a war on facts and numbers and other truths things. Keep digging.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
3. Not surprised
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:23 AM
Oct 2016

The only group in Florida he hasn't pissed off at this point are the redneck keyboard jockeys who only leave their mobile home long enough to swing by the Seven Eleven to buy another twelve pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer in the can. They're too busy clicking and refreshing to vote for Trump on meaningless online polls to actually go register to vote for real.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
5. Some other interesting news from Florida - personal anecdote
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:41 AM
Oct 2016

My most right wing in laws - the husband is a dominionist type Christian, ex- Air Force, extremely right wing, gives Bill O'Reilly books as Christmas presents - are NOT voting for Trump!

This is a complete shocker to me! My husband who relayed the information doesn't know for sure who the family is voting for - there are five kids old enough to vote and his sister - but he thinks they might vote for Johnson. That may not be as good as votes for Clinton but at least they will not be voting for Trump.

They live in Bay County, a very very red part of the Panhandle because of all the active duty and retired military that live there.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
7. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:48 AM
Oct 2016

They need to run an ad in Florida: Your last 3'd party vote gave us the Iraq War and Isis.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
8. In this case the only other candidate they would vote for would be Trump
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:52 AM
Oct 2016

That family will never vote for a Democrat - double for a woman or a non-white person. Seriously from them, Johnson is an improvement over what they usually select for their votes. Given their history, I will be happy that they might vote for Johnson.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
10. That would not be helpful.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:24 AM
Oct 2016

You can't guilt people into voting for someone, especially when you are trying to attract people who normally vote for the opposition. All that does is push them away. That argument is only relevant with people on the far left anyhow. The Republicans weren't likely voting for Nader. It is important to educate the younger voters about what CAN and DID happen when people voted for a third party candidate that stood no chance of winning, though.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
16. Guess it was a perfect storm.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 03:18 AM
Oct 2016
Nader won enough votes in two states — Florida and New Hampshire — to put either of them in Gore’s column. Nader won 97,488 votes in Florida, which easily could have swung the election to give Gore the state’s 25 electoral votes, and there would have been no need for a recount. Even without Florida, adding Nader’s 4 percent of the New Hampshire vote to Gore’s 47 percent would have given Gore a 270 to 267 victory in the electoral college.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-nader-cost-gore-an-election/2015/02/05/3261cc22-abd2-11e4-8876-460b1144cbc1_story.html?utm_term=.bea0e0f0f6bd


Gore could have survived the Nader effect if it wasn't for that Butterfly Ballot. He also could have survived with a full recount in Florida if it wasn't for the Supreme Court.

FL_Jerry

(25 posts)
6. I was happy about it too, but
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:44 AM
Oct 2016

I asked about it at the local DWC HQ (they have the best operation in Panama City), and they weren't counting on it. Seems the DWC women wear a Hillary pin or some other tip off so that people they register are more likely to be supporters. The paid party collectors have a quota and register as many as they can some of which may be Republican leaning.

At least that was my understanding of what I was told.

I can't help to think though that with those numbers we would come out with some advantage.





csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. When my husband goes out to register voters, he wears his Obama shirts from 2008
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:58 AM
Oct 2016

That pretty much weeds out the Republicans. He works out of the FDP HQ in Tallahassee on an irregular basis. They are very happy with their numbers. I don't know the totals but they registered a LOT of students arriving on the FSU, FAMU, and TCC campuses the weekend before Hermine hit.

We did a four day training for voter registration, sending people to do it, and phone banking out of my house. My estimate was that our team registered about 50 people over those four days and made about 1200 calls. The team that covered the campuses was registering a few hundred voters a day!

DFW

(54,378 posts)
18. Luntz has a particular fascination with Hillary
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 04:10 AM
Oct 2016

During a closed Q & A session (going back 11 years now, but even so), he actually kneeled at her feet. He thought he was being funny, but the sham wasn't 100 real. There was some true reverence there.*

*I was seated less than 20 feet away. It was unmistakable.

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