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Botany

(70,501 posts)
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 08:58 AM Oct 2016

Does this not sound just like Trump's grabbing some p***y story he told B. Bush on the bus?

Last edited Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:10 AM - Edit history (1)

"And so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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Trump: “I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else. And you know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore, I’m inspecting it. You know I’m inspecting it. I want to make sure everything is good.”

Stern: “You’re like a doctor.”

Trump: “Is everyone OK? You know they’re standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/10/11/former-beauty-queen-she-other-contestants-were-forced-to-greet-trump-even-when-not-fully-dressed/

The man should be on a list of sexual predators.

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Does this not sound just like Trump's grabbing some p***y story he told B. Bush on the bus? (Original Post) Botany Oct 2016 OP
Donald Lester Trump Coyotl Oct 2016 #1
or maybe Donald Herbert Trump... Towlie Oct 2016 #23
More surprises ahead, no doubt. Coyotl Oct 2016 #26
These are TEENS and many UNDERAGE TEENS. kacekwl Oct 2016 #58
Aren't Republicans supposed to be against anoNY42 Oct 2016 #2
It's the hypocrisy and perversion of Republican males mnhtnbb Oct 2016 #6
He's a dangerous creepy clown BSdetect Oct 2016 #3
He's the fucking criminal SHRED Oct 2016 #4
Why isn't this FrontPage news also? SHRED Oct 2016 #5
A polite request from a DU woman.. whathehell Oct 2016 #7
done Botany Oct 2016 #8
Thank you. whathehell Oct 2016 #9
thank you mercuryblues Oct 2016 #11
As a woman, I do not mind the use of that word when it references Trump TNNurse Oct 2016 #10
Then that's fine for you.. whathehell Oct 2016 #17
I do appreciate your point, it is demeaning TNNurse Oct 2016 #19
Regarding trolls- you think they have any shame? I disagree with normalizing this bullshit... bettyellen Oct 2016 #38
I respectfully disagree angrychair Oct 2016 #13
What do you disagree with? whathehell Oct 2016 #24
I would agree with that. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2016 #25
I honestly meant no offense angrychair Oct 2016 #29
We are seeing the normalization of a lot of hateful stuff out there- we don't want to be a party to bettyellen Oct 2016 #39
You do realize whathehell Oct 2016 #45
I would agree if it were being used indiscriminately in contexts.. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2016 #14
+1 PassingFair Oct 2016 #20
Then let me ask you.. whathehell Oct 2016 #31
Did you miss where I agreed with you above? Pacifist Patriot Oct 2016 #33
Sorry, yes, I did miss it.. whathehell Oct 2016 #42
I think the misunderstanding stems Pacifist Patriot Oct 2016 #46
---- whathehell Oct 2016 #49
Okay then. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2016 #54
I hear you. But I feel differently. boston bean Oct 2016 #30
Do you feel the same about "cleaning up" racial slurs? whathehell Oct 2016 #35
Actually i feel the same. boston bean Oct 2016 #37
I think you are missing the point whathehell Oct 2016 #43
Well I am a member of the oppressed and my feelings count to. I've explained myself well. boston bean Oct 2016 #44
No need to get all huffy and defensive, bean, lol whathehell Oct 2016 #47
You are so nice. you have a good one "to"! lol boston bean Oct 2016 #48
I am, and you know what? I even know how to spell! whathehell Oct 2016 #50
You keep patting yourself on the back. I will "to"! lol boston bean Oct 2016 #51
Oooh....Looks like someone's little ego got hurt whathehell Oct 2016 #52
My ego is doing great. No worries about me, please. boston bean Oct 2016 #53
Sure it is.. whathehell Oct 2016 #56
Wow you just can't let it go. Speaks to...... boston bean Oct 2016 #57
This is a confession of Criminal Behavior Tribalceltic Oct 2016 #12
Yes, it does. And the women felt that way, too. nt pnwmom Oct 2016 #15
Old dirty ass freak Thrill Oct 2016 #16
538 Nowcast Jon King Oct 2016 #18
Same thing is being reported regarding the Miss Teen pageants. Some of these girls were just 15! Laser102 Oct 2016 #21
How many coaches of women's and girls' sports have been fired and/or arrested for this sort of shit? Buzz Clik Oct 2016 #22
+1 Botany Oct 2016 #34
Did you all notice that Trump, like the access vid underthematrix Oct 2016 #27
Yes! It killed me when it took two days for reporters to say these remarks happened in the workplace bettyellen Oct 2016 #40
Except doctors don't go strolling into women's dressing rooms to inspect the women. ffr Oct 2016 #28
He was peeping on underage girls and bragged about it. pointsoflight Oct 2016 #32
"Creepy Donald" Is A Pervert Yallow Oct 2016 #36
He's such a professional. An exceptional role model. oasis Oct 2016 #41
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #55
I wonder if he did not have hidden cameras maybe. texanwitch Oct 2016 #59

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
58. These are TEENS and many UNDERAGE TEENS.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:35 PM
Oct 2016

The police should have been called. This perv has no bounds and should have to register as sex offender.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
6. It's the hypocrisy and perversion of Republican males
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:04 AM
Oct 2016

Instill fear about something which isn't a problem (trans women in women's rest rooms) while supporting
the obvious pervert who brags about getting away with something they'd like to do.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
3. He's a dangerous creepy clown
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 09:26 AM
Oct 2016

And sexual assaulter

As a 70 year old he faces rapid physical decline. What could get worse?

A demented predator?



whathehell

(29,067 posts)
7. A polite request from a DU woman..
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:06 AM
Oct 2016

As a female, I am offended by P word...Could we give it the same treatment we give other offensive words here and decline the full spell out? Despite one broadcaster's saying it, MOST, like Rachel for instance, realize its potential for offense and abbreviate it or find another way to indicate it. I think most DU women would appreciate this.




TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
10. As a woman, I do not mind the use of that word when it references Trump
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:16 AM
Oct 2016

and the things he says and does. Otherwise, it kind of cleans it up. Just my opinion. Also any woman who supports him should have to hear it as a reminder her of her lack of self-respect.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
17. Then that's fine for you..
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:44 AM
Oct 2016

but given that we've all heard and seen it here several times, I doubt there's a chance of there being a "misunderstanding" or undermining of it's offense as used by Trump. As for your last point, I doubt that DU is the best place to find and punish Trump supporters.


TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
19. I do appreciate your point, it is demeaning
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:52 AM
Oct 2016

but I am damned determined to not clean up anything he says. As for your last point, I think there are people who sneak on here to troll..so....

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
38. Regarding trolls- you think they have any shame? I disagree with normalizing this bullshit...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:54 AM
Oct 2016

Not here. No p*%#+y, no c*%#t because we're lowering the bar way too much as it is.

angrychair

(8,698 posts)
13. I respectfully disagree
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:33 AM
Oct 2016

In the context of a quote or in reference to tRump's comments, I think it's valid.
Covering it up as a different word takes away the seriousness of what trump was saying and doing.
Trump is a sexual predator who has likely committed sexual battery dozens of times. He was ok with calling his own daughter "a piece of ass". This guy is a vile scumbag and he deserves every one of these words being used in the context they were delivered.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
24. What do you disagree with?
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:10 AM
Oct 2016

The reality of my being offended? Would you 'disagree' with a Black man who claimed.tobe offended by seeing the N word spelled out Do you object to referring to a racial slur as the N- word on the basis that it "covers it up"?

You noted another offensive phrase used by Trump - "piece of ass"- and, as indicated, you rightfully used quote marks to question it's legitimacy....That is the ONLY type of restraint I am requesting - quote marks or some other indicator of it's unacceptable nature. I hardly think that's too much to ask, especially given the willingness to show that respect to other groups.

angrychair

(8,698 posts)
29. I honestly meant no offense
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:19 AM
Oct 2016

I am not saying you don't have a right to feel that way or that your wrong for feeling that way.
Only expressing my opinion as to why using those words, in the right context and attributed to the speaker, is important.

I apologize if I came across poorly. We are on the same side here

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
39. We are seeing the normalization of a lot of hateful stuff out there- we don't want to be a party to
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:57 AM
Oct 2016

That. I don't give a damn if anyone thinks it's too PC- it's being respectful to women. We Dems more than anyone should be damned grateful to women voters right now- don't you think?

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
45. You do realize
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:24 PM
Oct 2016

That I wasn't calling for a "ban" on the word, don't you?

I was simply asking people to modify it y using quote marks or abbreviations as we do with terms that demean OTHER groups like gays and people of color. I have no idea why this should be too much to ask...Saying it is means we women aren't entitled to that same concern or respect -- Period.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
14. I would agree if it were being used indiscriminately in contexts..
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:37 AM
Oct 2016

not associated with Trump. When quoting him, I think it's valid. I don't want his words sanitized.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
20. +1
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:56 AM
Oct 2016

I find the term horribly offensive, but I've used it when quoting Trump.

I think the phrase "*ussygate" is hilarious and sums up the contempt I feel for that man.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
31. Then let me ask you..
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:21 AM
Oct 2016

Do you feel the same way about racial.slurs like "nigger"? Is using quote marks or terms like the 'n-word' too "sanitizing" for you? and if not, why not?.... Funny, I've yet to hear a single complaint to that effect.

What you are all missing is the KEY concern, and that is simple RESPECT or the FEELINGS of many, if not most women here...Funny, how that's always given a back seat .

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
33. Did you miss where I agreed with you above?
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:30 AM
Oct 2016

I think we're saying the same thing. I, and others, misunderstood your first post as a request the word not be used at all rather than asking quotations marks be used when appropriate.

I'm female so I'm not sure what your final point is.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
42. Sorry, yes, I did miss it..
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:04 PM
Oct 2016

and I'm glad to see you agree.

As for others missing my point, I guess we all sometimes fail to read entire posts, even though they had the example of the OP, who not only understood immediately, but showed the grace snd sensitivity to comply with the request.

I'm not sure what you mean by my "final point", Pacifist.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
46. I think the misunderstanding stems
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:25 PM
Oct 2016

from using the phrase "decline to spell it out" rather than "restrict its use to quotes." I don't think any of us would have disagreed with that. Your original post made it sound like you wanted even his words to be substituted with euphemisms or asterisks.

I may have misunderstood again, but I am frequently mistaken as male and I thought I was being perceived has not having respect for women's feelings because I felt it perfectly fine to use the word rather than sanitize Trump's speech.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
49. ----
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:47 PM
Oct 2016

There was no misunderstanding if anyone thought I was suggesting using asterisks..My point was to indicate it as unacceptable using asterisks OR quote marks or any of the other things we do here with offensive terms, I.e. "the "n word". I doubt I can be any clearer than that.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
30. I hear you. But I feel differently.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:19 AM
Oct 2016

I do not think woman should clean up a persons misogyny. The offense is in the context in which one uses the word.

I have had posts hidden for spelling out the word when the context of the post was my objecting to it. It becomes a weapon misogynists use. Ie she is just as bad for using the word. ummm no!

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
35. Do you feel the same about "cleaning up" racial slurs?
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:36 AM
Oct 2016

by using terms like then "n-word"? I have never seen, nor do I want to see,.that ugly racial slur spelled out, by you or anyone else here..I simply wonder why so little of that consideration is shown to women

Not for the first time, I think how depressing it is to see women unwilling to show the respect for themselves they routinely how to others.


boston bean

(36,221 posts)
37. Actually i feel the same.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:54 AM
Oct 2016

I do not think black persons should feel compelled to sanitize a bigots language.

Nor do I feel they are disrespectful to themselves for spelling it out.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
43. I think you are missing the point
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:13 PM
Oct 2016

No one is trying to do bigots any favors, but this is DU which should be a place safe from hurtful slurs NOT signaled as being such.. Concern is for the feelings of the oppressed, not the oppressor.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
44. Well I am a member of the oppressed and my feelings count to. I've explained myself well.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:21 PM
Oct 2016

we disagree with one another. no biggie.

And I don't think my feminist creds ought to be called into question here. I am not questioning yours. I understand your points. I wish you could afford me the same.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
47. No need to get all huffy and defensive, bean, lol
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:36 PM
Oct 2016

I'm glad you think you "explained yourself well"....Nothing like patting yourself on the back. By the way, the word in your subject line should be "too", not "to". Have a good one.

Tribalceltic

(1,000 posts)
12. This is a confession of Criminal Behavior
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:29 AM
Oct 2016

He should be investigated, arrested if the charge can be proven in court. Jail or a secure mental health facility If and when he is convicted.

This is dangerous predatory behavior and should not be tolerated by authorities.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
22. How many coaches of women's and girls' sports have been fired and/or arrested for this sort of shit?
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:05 AM
Oct 2016

Countless.

Damn

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
27. Did you all notice that Trump, like the access vid
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:15 AM
Oct 2016

keeps referring to women as "it" which is the ultimate objectification

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
40. Yes! It killed me when it took two days for reporters to say these remarks happened in the workplace
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:59 AM
Oct 2016

But I'm the only one I have seen talking about him referring to that woman as "It".

ffr

(22,669 posts)
28. Except doctors don't go strolling into women's dressing rooms to inspect the women.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:17 AM
Oct 2016

Creepy pervert Donald. I can only imagine what he does to himself after he steps out.

texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
59. I wonder if he did not have hidden cameras maybe.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 05:59 PM
Oct 2016

If he would walk into the changing rooms he might.

I have been thinking about it.

Just think about the drop in people staying in his hotels now.

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