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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:46 AM Oct 2016

Right-wing pastor gives up the game: It’s better for a president to grab a vagina than to have one

A religious right activist came right out loud and said what Mike Pence has been hinting at with all his talk about Donald Trump’s broad shoulders.

Dave Daubenmire posted a video Tuesday morning assuring like-minded Christians that Trump’s boasts about grabbing women by the genitals with impunity should concern them less than the possibility of a person with female genitalia becoming president, reported Right Wing Watch.

“Women and men may be equal, but I think it’s pretty clear that the Bible teaches us that women should not be in authority over a man,” said Daubenmire, who lost his job coaching high school football in Ohio after requiring players to pray with him and expressing offensive views about LGBT people and others.

Daubenmire, founder of Pass the Salt Ministries and an unsuccessful candidate for the Ohio statehouse, clarified why many conservative Christians are willing to overlook Trump’s immoral behavior. “Here’s the point I’m making,” Daubenmire said. “With all that’s going on with Trump and everybody screaming and hollering about that, when is the last time your pastor stood up in the pulpit and said, ‘Hey, listen, we cannot vote for Hillary Clinton because women are not to have authority over men’?”

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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/right-wing-pastor-gives-up-the-game-its-better-for-a-president-to-grab-a-vagina-than-to-have-one/

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Right-wing pastor gives up the game: It’s better for a president to grab a vagina than to have one (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
This is absolutely part and parcel of a large group of evangelicals. Men especially. apcalc Oct 2016 #1
They indeed ARE all over the place. I had contact with many of them at my Nay Oct 2016 #7
Agree 100% SharonClark Oct 2016 #12
Say, 'Hi!' TheBlackAdder Oct 2016 #20
Ha! Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 #24
The 1400s are coming back. How quain't it ain't. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #2
I'm going with 1040 AD Coyotl Oct 2016 #14
LOL! ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #15
Trump, their last hope that the earth will ever be flat again. Coyotl Oct 2016 #16
Which way did they go, George? Which way did they go? TheBlackAdder Oct 2016 #21
Excellent. Coyotl Oct 2016 #25
What about Sentath Oct 2016 #19
Bread roll ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #26
Wow, doubling down and going nuclear on his believers. ffr Oct 2016 #3
Why would any self respecting woman put up with that crap? nt. Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #4
Look up the Quiverfull movement workinclasszero Oct 2016 #5
AAAAAND here we have it, ladies. We just can't hack normal life, and must be Nay Oct 2016 #6
"coach Dave" jcgoldie Oct 2016 #8
Excuse me, which article of the Constitution is that one in? Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #9
I once had one of these ministers dgibby Oct 2016 #10
My own mother... Duppers Oct 2016 #31
My mother and I had our differences, dgibby Oct 2016 #33
Wow! Duppers Oct 2016 #34
"pass the salt ministries" sounds prophetic 0rganism Oct 2016 #11
For sure! LOL!!! Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 #23
What. A. Nut. nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #13
To which the obvious answer is....... DFW Oct 2016 #17
SNAP! Raster Oct 2016 #28
Yes. Intelligent people don't boast about their IQ. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #32
Did the good reverend also say this NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #18
To have even done that....... DFW Oct 2016 #29
I cannot wait until humanity evolves finally and completely away from idiotic religious thinking Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 #22
Amen! NastyRiffraff Oct 2016 #27
JHC! The patriarchal Stupid Burns! Cha Oct 2016 #30

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
1. This is absolutely part and parcel of a large group of evangelicals. Men especially.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:50 AM
Oct 2016

Women are to be subservient, a helpmate to man. Period.

I worked with six to ten evangelical men, and two of them in particular spewed this line openly.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
7. They indeed ARE all over the place. I had contact with many of them at my
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:09 PM
Oct 2016

workplace, too. It's not just the Quiverfulls.

For every man that manages to find a woman who'll agree to this, there are ten who wish they could find one.

It's also why I laugh hysterically when I hear people say, "Oh, when the old sexists/racists die off, we'll be rid of them!"

No, you won't. Because millions of children are still being raised to believe in this shit.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
2. The 1400s are coming back. How quain't it ain't.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:50 AM
Oct 2016

Worse yet, with every generation they spawn, they poison. Early on, these idiotic ideas and behaviors are pushed as god swill. God's will. Once washed and rinsed from early in one's yute, a brain does not easily recover.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
15. LOL!
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:07 PM
Oct 2016

Eye C what you did there!

The real question is just what kind of toast trump is. I'd guess "Wry." Maybe "Hole Weak."

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Look up the Quiverfull movement
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:57 AM
Oct 2016
Family organization, homeschooling, homesteading

Also see: Dominionism, and Patriarchy

Quiverfull authors and adherents advocate for and seek to model a return to Biblical Patriarchy.[citation needed] Mary Pride recently distanced herself from the patriarchy movement in an article for Practical Homeschooling. In her article, she clearly stated her disapproval of the movement, and sets the record straight that she should not be considered a founder of it.

Quiverfull authors typically organize family governance with the mother as a homemaker under the authority of her husband with the children under the authority of both. Parents seek to largely shelter their children from aspects of culture they as parents deem adversarial to their religious beliefs. Additionally, Quiverfull families strongly incline toward homeschooling and toward homesteading in a rural area. However, exceptions exist in substantial enough proportion that these latter two items are general and often idealized correlates to Quiverfull practices and not integral parts of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull

Nay

(12,051 posts)
6. AAAAAND here we have it, ladies. We just can't hack normal life, and must be
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:02 PM
Oct 2016

shoved into the corner at home so the menz can proceed with their wonderful bang-up job they are doing for us, the planet, the poor, etc., etc. Why, it would be a SHAME to have a woman in authority over such righteous, well-meaning, hard-working male paragons of virtue.



Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
9. Excuse me, which article of the Constitution is that one in?
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:43 PM
Oct 2016

BTW, fuck all of the Pence-istas, too. I'm not voting for someone to be God, Family, Country.

You want to work for me, you will do your job as Country, Family, God.

Read Artcle Six for christ's sake.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
10. I once had one of these ministers
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:44 PM
Oct 2016

tell me that he would never allow a woman to direct the choir because a woman can't have dominion over a man. When he said that, all the depressed miserable Stepford wives nodded in agreement. When he asked me to join the church, I laughed in his face, then invited him and his wife out for a shellfish dinner.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
31. My own mother...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:16 AM
Oct 2016

is one of the misogynistic, religious women. A fundie and Republican. Needless to say, I've spent most of my life trying to avoid even talking to her.

Sad to say, but since childhood, I thought she was stupid.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
33. My mother and I had our differences,
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:11 PM
Oct 2016

but she never drank the kool-aid when it came to religion and misogney. She always worked (3 jobs), had to function in a "man's world", but believe me, she didn't take prisoners when it came to that stuff.

She was born in 1908, attended a one room school. When she was in the first grade, one of the older boys tried to molest her at recess. She hit him in the head with a fireplace poker and almost killed him. Just missed his temple by a fraction of an inch. He was out cold in the floor when the teacher found him. Needless to say, nobody bothered her again. Guess that set the tone for her outlook for the rest of her life!

BTW, I didn't fall far from that tree! One of my commanding officers though it would be a good idea for the single female officers in the command to go the the officers club and circulate and scintillate whenever the fleet was in. I told him he was my CO, not my pimp.

0rganism

(23,945 posts)
11. "pass the salt ministries" sounds prophetic
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:56 PM
Oct 2016

gonna be a lot of salt flowing around there on Nov. 9
saltiness to end all saltiness

DFW

(54,370 posts)
17. To which the obvious answer is.......
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:17 PM
Oct 2016

It's better for a president to have a brain than to boast about his lack of one.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
29. To have even done that.......
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:33 AM
Oct 2016

He would have to know who Margaret Thatcher was and where the UK is. I have my doubts on both.

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