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Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:54 AM Oct 2016

Clinton and the banker speeches-- is there any good in-depth reporting on this?

Taibbi has some really good thoughts here
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-fury-and-failure-of-donald-trump-w444943

The suspicions heightened on the same day that Trump's infamous "pussy" tape leaked, when WikiLeaks released papers purporting to be excerpts of Clinton's speeches to corporate and financial titans like Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank and GE. Her campaign had stalwartly refused to release these during the primary against Bernie Sanders.

After the Wiki release, however, one had to wonder why the Clinton camp had bothered to keep the papers secret.
The "secret" speeches in some ways showed Hillary Clinton in a more sympathetic light than her public persona usually allows. Speaking to bankers and masters of the corporate universe, she came off as relaxed, self-doubting, reflective, honest, philosophical rather than political, and unafraid to admit she lacked all the answers.

The transcripts read like freewheeling discussions with friends about how to navigate an uncertain future. In one speech, she conceded a sense of disconnect between the wealthy and the middle class to which she used to belong. This, she said, was a feeling she never had growing up, when the country seemed to be more united.

"And now, obviously," she told executives from Goldman, "I'm kind of far removed because of the life I've lived and the economic ... fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy."
This frank, almost regretful admission rendered her more real in a few sentences than those cliché-ridden speeches about her hardscrabble background as the granddaughter of a Scranton lace-factory worker.
In a speech before the Brazilian Banco Itaú, Clinton talked about her vision for the future. "My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders," she reportedly said. She wanted this economy "as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere."

In classic Clintonian fashion, her camp refused to confirm the authenticity of the emails, while also not denying them either. But why not just own the e-mails? Why all the cagey non-denial denials?
The themes Clinton discussed with the banks were awesome, sweeping and of paramount importance, especially coming from someone in such a unique position to shape the world's future. They collectively represented exactly the honest discussion about what is ahead for all of us that no one in power has ever really had with the rest of the country.
The "scandal" of the Wiki papers, if you can call it that, is that it captured how at ease Clinton was talking to bankers and industrialists about the options for the organization of a global society. Even in transcript form, it's hard not to realize that the people in these rooms are all stakeholders in this vast historical transformation.


Is anyone else going through these and digesting them?
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Clinton and the banker speeches-- is there any good in-depth reporting on this? (Original Post) Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 OP
She hasn't had time to read the voluminous leaks. Why should she? yardwork Oct 2016 #1
not her-- I mean reporters Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 #2
Yes, Vanity Fair has an article Nictuku Oct 2016 #3
great-- thanks Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 #6
It's SHOCKING! ....and you won't believe what happened next! underpants Oct 2016 #4
that's what it seems like, right? Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 #5

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
1. She hasn't had time to read the voluminous leaks. Why should she?
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:57 AM
Oct 2016

Why should Clintoninterrupt her campaign to spend hundreds - maybe thousands - of hours reading this leaked material in order to confirm or deny the accuracy?

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
2. not her-- I mean reporters
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:59 AM
Oct 2016

obviously Taibbi went trough them a bit. I'm just wondering if anyone has seen other takes on the leaks from a sympathetic voice.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
4. It's SHOCKING! ....and you won't believe what happened next!
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:32 AM
Oct 2016

I've read through a lot of them and there is nothing here other than she is a reasonable person who didn't tell them what they wanted to hear and is in favor of single payer.

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