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question everything

(47,485 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:56 PM Nov 2012

I don't want to compromise

OK, I know that my opinion does not count, still

I follow rape-is-fom-god-Mourdock: compromise is when the Republicans agree with Democrats.

Someone recently, at one of the TV shows commented: OK, the Republicans are willing to increase taxes on the rich. What are the Democrats willing to give? To which I reply - nothing!

How can they compare asking the wealthiest among us - and I don't have any problem setting the line at $500K - paying more taxes, to cutting social programs? These are not even equivalent "sacrifices."

So let the Bush cuts expire. And then let the Democrats start from scratch. Follow the tax rates of the Clinton year as a starting point.

OK, start shooting.

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I don't want to compromise (Original Post) question everything Nov 2012 OP
Then write your representatives and senators still_one Nov 2012 #1
My representative is a teabagger question everything Nov 2012 #2
One of your Senators gives an unresponsive reply. Lucky you. Mine asks for more money. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #7
Remind them... PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #13
Thanks. But you must not be from Illinois. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #17
Not Illinois, but.... PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #19
We let them know how we feel, especially the tea bagger. This last election demonstrated that still_one Nov 2012 #9
I may just do this question everything Nov 2012 #11
at least that is my thought. After all they are supposed to be our representatives still_one Nov 2012 #18
I hate that treestar Nov 2012 #14
Raise taxes on the rich and switch retirees to a cheaper ramen noodle..balanced?? tokenlib Nov 2012 #3
Im sick of all the crap the republicans GETTINGTIRED Nov 2012 #5
I say no. Savannahmann Nov 2012 #4
I don't want to compromise LukeFL Nov 2012 #6
You should wait to see what Obama does and then support it no matter what. nt limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #8
I John2 Nov 2012 #10
Right. Especially since this recession finally brought home the change in the economy question everything Nov 2012 #12
I am definitely OK with going over this cliff treestar Nov 2012 #15
No shots from me. No compromise. Never. It's over the cliff for me. ancianita Nov 2012 #16
“Do I go to this restaurant? Do I not go to this restaurant? Do I go to this bar? Do I not go to libdem4life Nov 2012 #20

question everything

(47,485 posts)
2. My representative is a teabagger
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:19 PM
Nov 2012

and my senator, at least one of them, has a computer that looks for "key words" and gives me a reply that has nothing to do with my comments. Another senator has a big black hole where my letter disappear. Oh, yes, both senators are D. So what?

PoliticalBiker

(328 posts)
13. Remind them...
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:26 PM
Nov 2012

... they already get money from you... You in part pay their salary.
Remind them that they work for YOU.
Remind them that they are there for the sole purpose of taking care of those that elected them, NOT for their own purposes.
Remind them they can be replaced and will be if they are not acting for the good of the people.

Public service is a sacrifice... NOT a gravy train

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
17. Thanks. But you must not be from Illinois.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:02 PM
Nov 2012

The best that we can do is try to vote for someone who is not as bad as the other guy.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
9. We let them know how we feel, especially the tea bagger. This last election demonstrated that
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:57 AM
Nov 2012

people with a like mind do have power. We had wall street, corporate America, and the media against us, along with high unemployment. Against all odds we still won

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. I hate that
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:31 PM
Nov 2012

I once wrote my rep. an R about position X on issue Y and got back a letter on how glad he is that I am interested in issue Y and how hard he is working on the opposite of X.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
3. Raise taxes on the rich and switch retirees to a cheaper ramen noodle..balanced??
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:21 PM
Nov 2012

I agree..it's better to go off the fiscal molehill.. than to compromise with the greedy asshats.

All this talk of a "balanced" approach keeps me wanting to see the fineprint on how the poor and struggling are going to get screwed just to get pennies from the gilded class.

GETTINGTIRED

(330 posts)
5. Im sick of all the crap the republicans
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:39 PM
Nov 2012

Shovel at us ..like we are some idiots like walker no same day registration as if he gives a flying f... if workers are tired. He doesn't give a crap about union workers and we are to believe he cares about volunteers at the polling sites mmhmm..I'm sick of them wanting everything for the wealthy and the middle class and poor aren't important...I'm tired and I hope the president doesn't budge....come what may...

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
4. I say no.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:38 PM
Nov 2012

Tell the Rethugs to get on board our plan, or we can campaign against them in 2014 while they explain to the voters why they jacked the taxes up on the middle class.

LukeFL

(594 posts)
6. I don't want to compromise
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:47 PM
Nov 2012

In any of our progressive landmarks either. I won't compromise on education, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, EPA, and taxeso PObama should know we dont want any Of our benefit be repealed, taken out, bring down a notch.. Nothing.

I want him to fight for these ideals And defend them as if he is taking his last breath Of Air, and while at it, he must do something with citizens united, our voting process, supreme court, immigration and the glass steagal act.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
10. I
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:54 AM
Nov 2012

think we have already compromised for the last 10-12 years and are fed up now with the GOP. I don't think the election is over. We should settle it with the gOP once and for all. You cannot compromise with a snake much less a nest of them.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
12. Right. Especially since this recession finally brought home the change in the economy
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:48 PM
Nov 2012

It started during the 80s (Reaganomics) when we accelerated from a manufacturing and farming base economy to one based on moving money around. When the ones who got the spoils were not entrepreneur and inventors who took a risk, but Wall street bankers and lawyers who facilitated taking over other businesses and made money - win or lose.

When many workers lost good paying jobs, switching to hourly work with no assurance of anything.

Since then, the wages of many workers stagnated, when the rate of inflation was added.

And it now we finally realized that many of the jobs lost are gone forever. That our economy has drastically changed. In the 70s, the ratio of the highest paid employee to the average wage of the same company was 40. In the 21st Century it has been 400. In the 90s it was said that service based economy - paying for services with discretionary income - was 67%. Now it has risen to 70% - perhaps more.

The beauty of the stimulus-generated work, like the WPA by FDR, is that it creates jobs that cannot be shipped out of the country.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. I am definitely OK with going over this cliff
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:33 PM
Nov 2012

Let the middle class taxes go back up - it would be to where they were before. The "sequester" would make defense cuts, as I understand it thus far. Nothing to lose.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. “Do I go to this restaurant? Do I not go to this restaurant? Do I go to this bar? Do I not go to
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:01 PM
Nov 2012

this bar?"

Do I get upgraded cable? Can I afford that "extra" tank of gas? Do I upgrade my 3-year old vehicle or keep it and pay it off? Do I take some overtime work? Do I pay my older kids an allowance, or get them acquainted with the working world?

Not really the end of the world as we know it. Also, I'm not sure the rest of the world feels our projected pain.

Stay strong, President Obama, the Middle Class can afford $20, give or take, a week. And those making a quarter of a million aren't going to go hungry any time soon.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/10/08/social-security-tax-rate-expected-to-increase/

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