2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPoll. Who will be most distrespected? The BLACK MAN or The FIRST WOMAN.
I am talking about disrespect from both sides of the aisle.
Here at DU we have had Obama called a POSUCS. Lauded and applauded to the top of the page...Twice. The apology was a long time coming and became another hate thread. Finally self deleted. Finally FFred.
We have Joe Wilson calling out YOU LIE at SOTU.
Rudy
Giuliani: Obama doesn't love America
The former New York mayor makes his remarks at a Scott Walker event.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rudy-giuliani-president-obama-doesnt-love-america-115309
Hillary? On DU she is worse than Bush and Trump. Seriously? Millions have been spent on investigating Hillary by the GOP. Millions of tax payer dollars. OUR DOLLARS! And zip. Nothing. Hmm.
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/133694/donald-trump-suggests-hillary-clinton-might-murdererand-no-one-bats-eye
Donald Trump suggests Hillary Clinton might be a murdererand no one bats an eye. As The Washington Post reported last night, the presumptive Republican nominee is reviving many of the conspiracy theories that surrounded the Clintons in the 1990s. Trump is receptive to the idea that Vince Foster, the Clinton aide who killed himself in 1993, might have been murdered:
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12 (55%) |
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Both. They are clearly not progressive enough. | |
1 (5%) |
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Equaly. They are minorities and neither should be respected. | |
1 (5%) |
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Neither. | |
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She is an Nasty Woman. | |
0 (0%) |
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He is a BAd Hombre. | |
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Not an option.
President Obama wan 300 Electoral votes in 2012, but the GOP rejected the idea that he had a mandate.
No matter how many Electoral votes Clinton wins, the GOP will reject the idea that she has a mandate.
putitinD
(1,551 posts)doesn't matter, they can find something to hate about anyone that is not on their team.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Is the American people.
Clinton and Obama can take it, they've heard this crap for years. I think the real damage is to the country, in all kinds of ways.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)is a brilliant statement.
Look at what the RePUG "plan" has done to our country in the past 8 years - and even go back to the Newt's "Contract with America" - but don't even BEGIN to get me talking about "W" and how THAT team screwed us over!
I can already see "the Turtle" and Paul "Eddie Munster" Ryan planning their meeting after the wonderful Hillary victory - where they'll announce that our "wonderful" RePUG party has positioned themselves for the next 4 years - the LATEST AND GREATEST PARTY OF NO!
Yeah, way to serve your people, you idiots (and you wonder why you keep loosing?)
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
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stevenleser
(32,886 posts)If so Sheshe2 is right.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)she asked who would be the most disrespected, Barack or Hillary.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)now I get. I am forgetful sometimes.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)split than after 2008. 2008 was a disaster for them, but they didn't have a bunch of pundits and other party insiders openly revolting against the nominee.
The GOP is going to be a mess after this election. It may take them some time to be able to mount an effective opposition.
Once that happens I think she will get it worse than Obama.
As far as Democrats, I think they will start in on her right away. I already saw a "hold her feet to the fire" type of OP post here regarding climate change.
I hope the current rules stay in place at DU. 8 years of faux outrage against Obama here were tiresome beyond belief.
sheshe2
(83,757 posts)I think we will have a small reprieve. The GOP and JPRers are going to be in a tail spin for a bit. Won't last long. The hate will be back 10 fold.
Yes....I saw the posts about her feet to the fire. They find a catchy phrase and stick to it.
What will the Admins do? Hmmm.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)pursue other avenues of insult. Plus AAs are a much smaller percentage of the population than women and rarely vote Republican. Republicans knew they could piss off pretty much every AA and still win the next election. The other racial groups who would sympathize with the AAs were likely Dem voters who couldn't be swayed anyway.
Rex
(65,616 posts)A certain group we are always talking about will lose their minds. At least Trump has torn open the GOP and hurt it in ways only stupidity and hatred can. He will blunder off to court after the election.
Probably fuck that one up too.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)bellmartin
(218 posts)...both have been/will be treated with terrible disrespect for the reasons you cite.
I think it will be worse for Hillary, though, in large part because they've seen her as a threat for much longer than they did Barack.
They almost had to start at square one in hating and despising him when his campaign became a serious threat to them in 2008.
Hillary, they had a major, multiple-year head start in hating.