2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is Ivanka Trump ok with her father describing her voluptuousness,
and how he would like to "date" her if he weren't her father? My dad would have dropped dead before he described me as a sex object. I think she really is a victim of Stockholm Syndrome. Sorry if some are offended, but, as a psychologist, who helped survivors of incest, this has been bothering me for a long time.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He described her sexual appeal in detail during Howard Stern interviews.
Edit: Even said Stern could call Ivanka a "piece of ass."
PJMcK
(22,035 posts)(sarcasm)
hlthe2b
(102,254 posts)until Trump decided to discard her for a newer (Marla Maples) model. So, it would be hard to think HOW Ivanka would have developed those boundaries and independence-linked self esteem on her own.
That said, she is now an adult and OUGHT to have the ability for some self-reflection/reassessment. But, look who she married--a man who, despite being Jewish himself, is just fine with exploiting white supremacy/antisemitism and the dirtiest of dirty tactics on behalf of father-in-law (and his OWN father).
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Rotten it may be...
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...fathers, with a nod to VP Biden, want to take a guy "behind the gym" for daring to call their daughters "a piece of ass?" Not sniggeringly agree to it.
There are most definitely no pictures of me draped across my late father's lap, caressing his cheek.
indeed x1000
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)and creepy photos. Personally, I believe it went beyond.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Simple, that guy is so vindictive, he would cut her off in an instant if she dared to defy him. And she likes being rich. I don't mean to be reductive, but I think it's true.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)People's boundaries. Which abusers of all types are.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I read an article yesterday (sorry, can't find a link) wherein Donald's kids are described as isolated, their way of life was summed up as "yes daddy".
In Ivanka's case, that "yes daddy" includes enduring his inappropriate behavior. As long as she plays along she gets whatever she wants. If she doesn't her life becomes hell.
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3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)Wishing you peace and healing someday soon.
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NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)she may just write it off as her father being her father and running off his mouth. She may talk to him about it in private.
Not do defend either one of them, as I think he's a disgusting human being.
Botany
(70,503 posts)3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...NO pictures of me and my dad that are anything like that.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Old Vet
(2,001 posts)Ugh...
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)If she is a victim then people discussing it really is quite cruel towards her.
I knew a woman whose father molested her from a very, very young age. We were not close, but I knew her quite well as her older brother was a neighbor and she stayed there for awhile. This woman was molested for most of her childhood and she did not know anything else. After she was an adult she did not leave the situation and the sexual relations with her father continued. I hesitate to say that she consented because clearly she was severely messed up emotionally over the abuse, but she was not forced to participate. This situation was discovered when the father's girlfriend found video tapes of father and daughter together when she was an adult. The girlfriend went to the police and the father went to prison. Even after he got out the daughter still went to see him.
Part of me felt horrible for this woman and the other part of me wanted to just slap her and shake her and tell her to stay the hell away from him.
All I know is that this type of situation is extremely complex and messed up. I hope that this never happened to Ivanka. If it did, I hope she is in therapy and it's not something to joke about.