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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 09:52 AM Oct 2016

Why is Ivanka Trump ok with her father describing her voluptuousness,

and how he would like to "date" her if he weren't her father? My dad would have dropped dead before he described me as a sex object. I think she really is a victim of Stockholm Syndrome. Sorry if some are offended, but, as a psychologist, who helped survivors of incest, this has been bothering me for a long time.

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Why is Ivanka Trump ok with her father describing her voluptuousness, (Original Post) MoonRiver Oct 2016 OP
That is creepy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 #1
Yes it is. MoonRiver Oct 2016 #2
It's because no one has more respect for women than Donald Trump PJMcK Oct 2016 #3
Her mother, Ivana put up with being treated that way herself, even being raped (per divorce docs) hlthe2b Oct 2016 #6
Typical approving seeker of fathers good graces no matter how beachbumbob Oct 2016 #7
Way beyond that, imo. MoonRiver Oct 2016 #8
Wouldn't most... 3catwoman3 Oct 2016 #9
Exactly. They have a sick relationship, even if it never went beyond obscene statements, MoonRiver Oct 2016 #10
$$$ JenniferJuniper Oct 2016 #11
Money. Lots of money. Adrahil Oct 2016 #12
Trump is very disrespectful of boundaries! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #15
He is her father and she is obedient to anything he says or does. Avalux Oct 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author cpamomfromtexas Oct 2016 #17
How awful for you. 3catwoman3 Oct 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author cpamomfromtexas Oct 2016 #22
we don't know what happens behind closed doors NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #18
because something is really sick in their daddy and daughter relationship Botany Oct 2016 #19
Believe me! There are... 3catwoman3 Oct 2016 #21
She's probably (sadly) used to it titaniumsalute Oct 2016 #25
Wow, Never heard those tapes before, One word, CREEPY............ Old Vet Oct 2016 #26
This topic, while compelling, is also one I don't think should be callously discussed NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #27
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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
2. Yes it is.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 09:57 AM
Oct 2016

He described her sexual appeal in detail during Howard Stern interviews.

Edit: Even said Stern could call Ivanka a "piece of ass."

hlthe2b

(102,254 posts)
6. Her mother, Ivana put up with being treated that way herself, even being raped (per divorce docs)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:04 AM
Oct 2016

until Trump decided to discard her for a newer (Marla Maples) model. So, it would be hard to think HOW Ivanka would have developed those boundaries and independence-linked self esteem on her own.

That said, she is now an adult and OUGHT to have the ability for some self-reflection/reassessment. But, look who she married--a man who, despite being Jewish himself, is just fine with exploiting white supremacy/antisemitism and the dirtiest of dirty tactics on behalf of father-in-law (and his OWN father).

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
9. Wouldn't most...
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:17 AM
Oct 2016

...fathers, with a nod to VP Biden, want to take a guy "behind the gym" for daring to call their daughters "a piece of ass?" Not sniggeringly agree to it.

There are most definitely no pictures of me draped across my late father's lap, caressing his cheek.

indeed x1000

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
10. Exactly. They have a sick relationship, even if it never went beyond obscene statements,
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:19 AM
Oct 2016

and creepy photos. Personally, I believe it went beyond.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. Money. Lots of money.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:28 AM
Oct 2016

Simple, that guy is so vindictive, he would cut her off in an instant if she dared to defy him. And she likes being rich. I don't mean to be reductive, but I think it's true.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
16. He is her father and she is obedient to anything he says or does.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:50 AM
Oct 2016

I read an article yesterday (sorry, can't find a link) wherein Donald's kids are described as isolated, their way of life was summed up as "yes daddy".

In Ivanka's case, that "yes daddy" includes enduring his inappropriate behavior. As long as she plays along she gets whatever she wants. If she doesn't her life becomes hell.

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NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
18. we don't know what happens behind closed doors
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:16 AM
Oct 2016

she may just write it off as her father being her father and running off his mouth. She may talk to him about it in private.

Not do defend either one of them, as I think he's a disgusting human being.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
27. This topic, while compelling, is also one I don't think should be callously discussed
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 02:04 PM
Oct 2016

If she is a victim then people discussing it really is quite cruel towards her.

I knew a woman whose father molested her from a very, very young age. We were not close, but I knew her quite well as her older brother was a neighbor and she stayed there for awhile. This woman was molested for most of her childhood and she did not know anything else. After she was an adult she did not leave the situation and the sexual relations with her father continued. I hesitate to say that she consented because clearly she was severely messed up emotionally over the abuse, but she was not forced to participate. This situation was discovered when the father's girlfriend found video tapes of father and daughter together when she was an adult. The girlfriend went to the police and the father went to prison. Even after he got out the daughter still went to see him.

Part of me felt horrible for this woman and the other part of me wanted to just slap her and shake her and tell her to stay the hell away from him.

All I know is that this type of situation is extremely complex and messed up. I hope that this never happened to Ivanka. If it did, I hope she is in therapy and it's not something to joke about.

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