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Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 03:23 PM Oct 2016

With so many folks opting for early voting; how how this figure into daily poll projections?

I know that we've had early voting in past elections, but this year seems to be unprecedented. With so many people opting to vote early, how does this information translate into the poll projections?

Thanks!

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With so many folks opting for early voting; how how this figure into daily poll projections? (Original Post) Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 OP
Good question. And here's a follow-up Q: Sunny05 Oct 2016 #1
NYT/Upshot has a good analysis reasonabletexan Oct 2016 #2
So if more dems are voting early and their not in the polling projections Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #5
538 never makes sense triron Oct 2016 #6
Me neither Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #7
I prefer Sam Wang's triron Oct 2016 #9
I think early voters are in the projection triron Oct 2016 #8
I think, by far, the early voters are Dems -- based on fear of monster lines & other forms of voter Bill USA Oct 2016 #12
the more early vote the better, Clinton ground game will round up the rest, less to do on the 8th. sunonmars Oct 2016 #3
I would think that the more that opt for early voting Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #4
Confidence level of early voter determination improves. Coyotl Oct 2016 #10
Why in the f--- are those 538 polling projections ticking slightly down for Hillary. Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #11

Sunny05

(865 posts)
1. Good question. And here's a follow-up Q:
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 03:30 PM
Oct 2016

Do you mean projections like fivethirtyeight does? Or any news org/web site that averages and graphs trend lines?

Past that I infer you are getting at the numbers "dropping out" (my term) from those projections as early votes are no longer to be projected. And, as I said at the outset: good question! I wonder if any early voting is factored into those projections. If so, I would guess the number and percentage of votes happening early was probably underestimated!

reasonabletexan

(40 posts)
2. NYT/Upshot has a good analysis
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 03:31 PM
Oct 2016

In NC that factors in what can be gleaned from voting history of those who have already voted and modifies its projections accordingly.

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
5. So if more dems are voting early and their not in the polling projections
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 03:53 PM
Oct 2016

could that artificially drive up tRump's projection numbers? Just trying to make a bit of sense of the slight upward drift toward tRump (at 538).

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
7. Me neither
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 03:58 PM
Oct 2016

but they must be getting composite polling information from somewhere to "justify" their polling projections. Just trying to understand it a bit...if possible...

triron

(22,001 posts)
9. I prefer Sam Wang's
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 04:02 PM
Oct 2016

Election consortium. He has HRC win at 99% (bayesian probability) or 97% (random drift). Take your pick.
Also take a look at his graphics. Trump pretty much nixed unless something drastic happens.

triron

(22,001 posts)
8. I think early voters are in the projection
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 03:58 PM
Oct 2016

just wonder whether they tend to be polled same as other voters.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
12. I think, by far, the early voters are Dems -- based on fear of monster lines & other forms of voter
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 04:47 PM
Oct 2016

suppression which Repubs know they don't have to worry about. Republican districts (in REpublican run states) magically have plenty of machines and polling places, while Democratic districts endure inadequate numbers of polling places and supply of functioning machines.



Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
4. I would think that the more that opt for early voting
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 03:44 PM
Oct 2016

the better for the dems, but if so why do the 538 projections continue to have a slight uptick for Trump? What's changing in the polls or projections?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
10. Confidence level of early voter determination improves.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 04:24 PM
Oct 2016

The two parties do not early vote at the same rate, so you cannot do early voting exit polls with accurate results. Polling still has to do weighting with the prediction of who will vote. best case scenario, margin of error drops as more respondents have voted.

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
11. Why in the f--- are those 538 polling projections ticking slightly down for Hillary.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 04:34 PM
Oct 2016

Yes, still plenty high, but is this email crap having a bit of impact?

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