2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA vote for Jill Stein is a a vote for Trump
Via: http://stupidpartymathvmyth.com/1/post/2016/08/voting-jill-stein-dont.html
"Ill say it again. Voting for Jill Stein? Dont.
I would guess that I am in the top 1% when it comes down to my personal green credentials. Friends have told me that my most likely fate will be a family member smothering a pillow over me as I sleepdriven to madness by my efforts to ban the use of the dryer, AC in the summer, central heating in the winter, insistence on LED lighting, complaints that Americans have not figured out how to make energy efficient double hung windows, my loathing of Hummer drivers, and my excitement that from 2025 on, Norway will ban the sale of newly manufactured fossil Cars.
Al Gore: If You Care About The Climate Crisis, Dont Vote For A Third Party
In my experience, it matters a lot.
I used to give large sums to environmental charities, but then I was struck by a depressing thought. Whats the point of hugging a tree if G.W. Bush is President? He and his kin will devote the full force of the US Government to maintaining an energy policy that has created todays mess and promoting an environmental policy designed to destroy the environment. I felt that I had a higher calling. My God (ha) told me that I must tackle the problem at the root. Expose and destroy StupidParty. Therefore to protect the planet, to protect humanity, I had to devote all my energies to taking the Stupid out of StupidParty. I do not really care who gets in the way of this objectiveall such barriers must be destroyed even it that means going after a fellow greeny if they are a threat to my planet, my home."
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Jnew28
(931 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)There are strong republican states, and strong democrat states. I don't really care if somebody in California or Wyoming votes for Jill Stein. Everybody knows how those states will fall.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)The over all margins in this election are very important. Clinton needs to get as high of margin of victory as possible to have a chance at a mandate and so all votes count. People who think that their vote does matter because they are in a blue state are wrong
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Trump is polling +35 there.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Every vote counts in the calculation of this margin. A cote os stein or johnson redeces that margin. This is called math
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The electoral college is what determines the next president.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Clinton needs as high of margin of victory nationwide to claim a mandate. Bill Clinton won with 43% in 1992 and that low margin of victory was used to claim that he had no mandate. It is very important that Hillary Clinton break the 50% margin nationwide and the larger her margin of victory, then the better claim to a mandate.
There is no excuse for a democrat to vote for Jill Stein or Johnson even if they are in a non-battleground state.