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pat_k

(9,313 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 10:54 PM Oct 2016

Does the use of the word "trove" bother anyone else?

Trove
trōv

noun: trove; plural noun: troves

a store of valuable or delightful things.
"the museum's trove of antique treasure"

Origin
late 19th century: from treasure trove.


And here's the definition of it's origin, "Treasure Trove":
A hidden store of valuable or delightful things.


The email was "hidden"?

How so?

Do they really think Abedin intended to "hide" these emails on Weiner's computer?

The email represents "a store of valuable or delightful things"?

Valuable? In the context of a criminal investigation, the things that are "valuable" are the things that represent evidence of a crime.

Delightful? The only people "delighting" in the discovery of this "trove" are Hillary's opponents.

The only people I'd expect to be using the word "trove" are the ones writing partisan hit jobs. But it's appearing all over the place.

Is this bothering anyone else?
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Does the use of the word "trove" bother anyone else? (Original Post) pat_k Oct 2016 OP
I can see how one could have a brain worm with that. Kick. fleabiscuit Oct 2016 #1
I think people are using it to mean "a lot" TrekLuver Oct 2016 #2
Yeah. I know. But it srikes me... pat_k Oct 2016 #3
I noticed it in a New York Times headline today. subterranean Oct 2016 #4
When I first noticed in relation to pat_k Oct 2016 #6
I commented on this earlier exboyfil Oct 2016 #5
Good to hear I'm not the only one. pat_k Oct 2016 #7
It doesn't mean "hidden", it means "found" - from the French "trouver" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #8
"found hidden in ground or other place..." pat_k Oct 2016 #10
Of all the things MirrorAshes Oct 2016 #9
Thx pat_k Oct 2016 #11

subterranean

(3,428 posts)
4. I noticed it in a New York Times headline today.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:13 AM
Oct 2016

And yes, I did wonder why they chose to use that particular word.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
6. When I first noticed in relation to
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:49 AM
Oct 2016

... the email on Weiner's computer, I think it was a Fox story, so I wrote it off as propaganda. Then I saw it in NYTimes and CBS pieces and was surprised.

It's been used in relation to wikileaks documents. It fits when applied to something like the docs Snowden released. Those were a "treasure trove" of information. And the information had been hidden from us in the name of "national security."

Don't know how it ended up being used as a synonym for more neutral terms like "batch" or "collection." Maybe reporters don't know the difference. Or just like how it sounds. A least it isn't appearing in things from the AP or Reuters (that I've seen anyway). I guess they are more thoughtful about editorial standards.

exboyfil

(17,880 posts)
5. I commented on this earlier
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:19 AM
Oct 2016

with the Evan Perez piece (who definitely needs to go to journalism school since he first reported that Abedin's attorney's were agreeing to allow a search of the PC, but later retracted that portion of the story).

It is a prejudicial word.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
7. Good to hear I'm not the only one.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 02:25 AM
Oct 2016

Last edited Mon Oct 31, 2016, 04:12 AM - Edit history (2)

Even if I'm one of a very small minority.

In light of the far more blatant and destructive examples of selective reporting, outright lies, and other propaganda floating around, being bothered by this little word may be out of proportion, but it strikes me as an example of how subtle propaganda can be.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,585 posts)
8. It doesn't mean "hidden", it means "found" - from the French "trouver"
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 06:42 AM
Oct 2016

Oxford English Dictionary:

trove, n.
Short for treasure-trove n. (q.v.), in sense ‘a valuable find’. Hence, a source of treasure, a reserve or repository of valuable things.

treasure-trove, n.
Etymology: Originally two words, in Anglo-Norman tresor trové = Latin thesaurus inventus, in 15th cent. rendered in English tresoure founden, founde, found; in 16th cent. with the French form anglicized treasure trovey, trove, trouve

a. lit. treasure found (see b), i.e. anything of the nature of treasure which any one finds; spec. in English Law: Treasure (gold or silver, money, plate, or bullion) found hidden in the ground or other place, the owner of which is unknown.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
10. "found hidden in ground or other place..."
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 02:01 PM
Oct 2016

Is doesn't really matter. It's a loaded word in the abedin email context... just a pet peeve.

It fits for something like the Snowdon docs. They were a treasure trove of important/valuable nformation hidden from us in the name os national security.

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