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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum*ALERT* Take the NT Times FBI push-back story with a BIG grain of salt.
They quote Breitbart.... Ya... right...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?rref=collection%2Fbyline%2Fsteven-lee-myers&action=click&contentCollection=undefined®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection
Mr. Stone derided the accusations and those raised by Michael J. Morell, a former C.I.A. director and a Clinton supporter, who has called Mr. Trump an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation. In an article on the conservative news site Breitbart, Mr. Stone denied having links to Russians and called the accusations the new McCarthyism.
Plus... click on authors names and examine their previous stories. Judge for yourselves.
http://www.nytimes.com/by/eric-lichtblau
http://www.nytimes.com/by/steven-lee-myers
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*ALERT* Take the NT Times FBI push-back story with a BIG grain of salt. (Original Post)
ProudProgressiveNow
Oct 2016
OP
Russians hack only one party, but totally not trying to influence outcome. Orly?
geek tragedy
Oct 2016
#8
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)1. There are no named sources in the story.
I just emailed a complaint to the NYT public editor.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)4. Plus, if you read the article carefully,
it is very artfully crafted. i.e.,
F.B.I. officials declined to comment on Monday. Intelligence officials have said in interviews over the last six weeks that apparent connections between some of Mr. Trumps aides and Moscow originally compelled them to open a broad investigation into possible links between the Russian government and the Republican presidential candidate. Still,
At least one part of the investigation has involved Paul Manafort, Mr. Trumps campaign chairman for much of the year. Mr. Manafort, a veteran Republican political strategist, has had extensive business ties in Russia and other former Soviet states, especially Ukraine, where he served as an adviser to that countrys ousted president, Viktor F. Yanukovych.
But the focus in that case was on Mr. Manaforts ties with a kleptocratic government in Ukraine and whether he had declared the income in the United States and not necessarily on any Russian influence over Mr. Trumps campaign, one official said.
they have said
that Mr. Trump himself has not become a target. And no evidence has emerged that would link him or anyone else in his business or political circle directly to Russias election operations.
At least one part of the investigation has involved Paul Manafort, Mr. Trumps campaign chairman for much of the year. Mr. Manafort, a veteran Republican political strategist, has had extensive business ties in Russia and other former Soviet states, especially Ukraine, where he served as an adviser to that countrys ousted president, Viktor F. Yanukovych.
But the focus in that case was on Mr. Manaforts ties with a kleptocratic government in Ukraine and whether he had declared the income in the United States and not necessarily on any Russian influence over Mr. Trumps campaign, one official said.
The past tense is used to convey select information. In other words, selective spin. Please read the whole thing very closely. You can pick out "wiggly" language.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)7. I'm not disagreeing with you, and I did read it carefully.
It is anonymously sourced.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)9. I should have written in addition
to being anonymously soured...
skylucy
(3,739 posts)3. Yes. I agree. The whole article sounds like BS
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)8. Russians hack only one party, but totally not trying to influence outcome. Orly?
The spirit of Judy Miller lives on
LisaL
(44,973 posts)13. Russians might have hacked both parties.
We just don't know. But what we know is that information is only released about one side.