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Any word on Trump child rape case? (Original Post) patsimp Nov 2016 OP
M$M is silent on Trump. For Trump's corrupt, pro-Russian, sexual predator cases... BlueCaliDem Nov 2016 #1
The Clinton campaign is silent on it as well. EL34x4 Nov 2016 #5
Probably because it's not a criminal case but a civil one NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #10
It can be done, but you have to write a check to a guy who sometimes pretends to be the victim jberryhill Nov 2016 #22
Exactly NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #26
Only on the child-rape case, which is filed as a civil case, not as a criminal case. It's the M$M's BlueCaliDem Nov 2016 #11
Perhaps the Clinton campaign, and the media have dug deeper into this thing than blog posters jberryhill Nov 2016 #21
I did see the copy of a letter NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #28
Perhaps you might share this letter? jberryhill Nov 2016 #29
What child rape case? budkin Nov 2016 #2
Bingo! What % of the electorate knows Trump faces a lawsuit for rape of a child? Garrett78 Nov 2016 #9
Unless the victim or witness comes forward PUBLICLY and identifies themself NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #12
The media doesn't seem to care much about due diligence when it comes to Clinton. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #14
I believe they've done more than you might realize jberryhill Nov 2016 #27
where did you read or hear about an evidence tape? Native Nov 2016 #3
it was mentioned on the DailyKos patsimp Nov 2016 #17
Really? Which thread? jberryhill Nov 2016 #30
The Status Conference Ccarmona Nov 2016 #4
Didn't the original case NewJeffCT Nov 2016 #6
It got thrown out in CA because the self-filer made a mistake pnwmom Nov 2016 #8
Here's a piece from Raw Story today. pnwmom Nov 2016 #7
This one has a pre-trial date of December 16, 2016, and it looks like it's getting serious. BlueCaliDem Nov 2016 #13
But that date will be cancelled if they don't serve Trump with the papers. pnwmom Nov 2016 #15
That may be why the Clinton Campaign hasn't spoken about this case yet. All Trump has to do is dodge BlueCaliDem Nov 2016 #16
His place of residence is well known jberryhill Nov 2016 #20
I appreciate your dogged attempts to explain this. cwydro Nov 2016 #23
The thing I don't get jberryhill Nov 2016 #24
Yes. cwydro Nov 2016 #25
Trump hasn't been served. tammywammy Nov 2016 #18
I know. pnwoman reminded me of that fact. But thanks! :-) eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2016 #19
 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
5. The Clinton campaign is silent on it as well.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:59 PM
Nov 2016

You'd think she'd be shouting it from the rooftops!

She's never had any other qualms about bringing up the horrible, sexist treatment of women that Trump has partaken in. In fact, she was talking about it today in Florida. Yet, according to a former producer for the Jerry Springer Show with a long history of making outlandish claims against celebrities, we have allegations that Donald J. Trump, the GOP nominee for President, her primary opponent in a close race for the highest office in the land, VIOLENTLY RAPES PRE-TEEN GIRLS!!! And for a million bucks, the victim's publicist will let you watch a video account of her testimony!

Yet from the Hillary Clinton campaign, crickets...

I can't for the life of me understand why she's not interested in this game-changing bombshell?

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
10. Probably because it's not a criminal case but a civil one
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:06 PM
Nov 2016

Where the plaintiff has chosen to remain anonymous and not come forward publicly. That means no main stream media outlet has been able to interview the victim or witness to corroborate the story. Since they can't do that they can't talk about it unless they want to be sued for libel and lose. You can't throw this kind of accusation around without being able to corroborate that you did due diligence to investigate and interviewed the victim, which cannot be done in this case.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
11. Only on the child-rape case, which is filed as a civil case, not as a criminal case. It's the M$M's
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:09 PM
Nov 2016

responsibility to "shout" this ugly case "from the rooftops" - since they're into that gossip/TMZ-style 'reporting' these days, not the Clinton Campaign's.

However, the Clinton Campaign have been out in force "shouting from the rooftops" Trump's ties to Russia, multiple servers used in order to remain in contact with a Russian Bank, Trump U Federal lawsuit, and the many, many other corruption allegations against him which are criminal cases, not civil cases. But the M$M are more interested in the nothing-burger letter from Comey.

That's the difference.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. Perhaps the Clinton campaign, and the media have dug deeper into this thing than blog posters
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:49 PM
Nov 2016

Oh, wait, I did not realize that your post was most likely sarcastic.

Yes, there are flashing red lights all over this anonymous unserved suit.
 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
28. I did see the copy of a letter
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 05:03 PM
Nov 2016

Sent by the alleged victim to the authorities asking for criminal charges to be filed. I'm not ready to say the case is fake, but if it's real then now would be the time to go public about it.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. Perhaps you might share this letter?
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 05:07 PM
Nov 2016

Or otherwise explain the rationale for writing to "the authorities" about an alleged crime committed in 1994?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
9. Bingo! What % of the electorate knows Trump faces a lawsuit for rape of a child?
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:04 PM
Nov 2016

What % of the electorate knows all about the "re-opening" of the FBI investigation of Clinton (staffer) emails?

Words can't describe how insane this all is.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
12. Unless the victim or witness comes forward PUBLICLY and identifies themself
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:09 PM
Nov 2016

You won't see anything. This is NOT a criminal case, unfortunately. It is a civil case. Anyone can file a civil case without any kind of proof at all. As a result, no respectable media company is going to touch this story with a ten foot pole UNLESS they can interview the victim. They HAVE to do that to show that they did their due diligence in reporting. Anything less could and would lead to a nasty lawsuit that the media company WOULD lose.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
4. The Status Conference
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:55 PM
Nov 2016

For this case is on 12/16 in the US District Court of New York, in front of Judge Ronnie Abrams, sister of media personality Dan Abrams.
In fact, there are over 75 Ongoing legal battles involving Trump, but you wouldn't know it if you solely relied on America's crack media.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/31/trump-has-75-ongoing-legal-battles-which-media-are-ignoring-during-their-breathless-fbi-letter/214211

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
8. It got thrown out in CA because the self-filer made a mistake
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:04 PM
Nov 2016

with the filing and filed it as a civil rights case.

This time around she has a lawyer -- but the case hasn't been served on Trump yet, so it's still not official.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
7. Here's a piece from Raw Story today.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:03 PM
Nov 2016

It's a horrendous case, by the look of it. But it's never been legally served on Trump (or it hadn't been as of yesterday.) Until that happens this isn't real, legally speaking. Just a possible court date on the calendar IF it gets served.

And a previous version wasn't served -- just withdrawn. So anything could happen with this one.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/witness-trump-also-raped-12-year-old-and-used-her-disappearance-to-threaten-another-victim/

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
13. This one has a pre-trial date of December 16, 2016, and it looks like it's getting serious.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:14 PM
Nov 2016
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/308374/reminder-the-pretrial-date-for-donald-trumps-child-rape-case-is-december-16/

But the difference in this case is that it's a civil case (seeking monetary damages) not a criminal case since the SOL for cases such as these has expired years ago when the Plaintiff was just 18 years young, I believe.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
15. But that date will be cancelled if they don't serve Trump with the papers.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:22 PM
Nov 2016

Previously, they had a date for a status conference on the calendar for October, but that one got cancelled because the plaintiff never served Trump, and then withdrew the lawsuit.

Then it got refiled. So I'd love for this to go ahead, but it's not real yet. Not till it's served.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
16. That may be why the Clinton Campaign hasn't spoken about this case yet. All Trump has to do is dodge
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:37 PM
Nov 2016

being served, forcing the Plaintiff's attorneys to withdraw and refile, and do this over and over and over again.

Makes sense why the Clinton Campaign hasn't spoken about it, but it doesn't clear up why the M$M hasn't run with it, considering they needed MUCH LESS to propagate Comey's vague and ambiguous letter to Republican Ratface and his band of House witch-hunters.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. His place of residence is well known
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:45 PM
Nov 2016

Nobody has problems serving Trump. In NY, it can be done by first class mail.

The plaintiff was ordered to serve the scheduling order on Trump on October 4. A month has gone by and the plaintiff has not done so.

There are reasons for that.

This case was originally shopped around by a Jerry Springer producer who has claimed, among other things, that Kurt Cobain was murdered, and that he sold drugs to OJ Simpson on the day his estranged wife was murdered. It is a set of allegations by entirely anonymous parties which simply has been filed and not served on the defendant.

Lot's o' details in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8263192
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
23. I appreciate your dogged attempts to explain this.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:56 PM
Nov 2016

People don't want to hear what you're saying apparently.

I read your posts in the other thread and found them illuminating.

Thank you. Perhaps others will get it eventually.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
24. The thing I don't get
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:58 PM
Nov 2016

...is that anyone whose opinion is going to rest on a set of anonymous accusations with a shady backstory is in all likelihood not inclined to vote for Trump in the first place.

Alternatively, anyone who is told "Trump goes on trial for rape in December!" and believes it, is going to be a bit leery of whatever else that source told them, once they find out it's not true.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
18. Trump hasn't been served.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 03:46 PM
Nov 2016

I think to consider it serious the minimum requirement would be having the defendant served with court papers.

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