2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI'm kicking Mika and Joe to the curb...need a tolerable replacement...
On occasion I watch about an hour of Joe and Mika. While they get on my nerves, it doesn't bother me much. It's no secret they're pure partisan hacks despite Mika saying that she is voting for Hillary(I think she's lying about that).
This morning...I got pissed.
They were talking with Harold Ford, Jr. Ford was making the point that it's not uncommon to like someone a lot one day and then when they do something inexplicable, criticize them.
Both Joe and Mika hit back at him hard over that. Harold was doing his best, IMO, to keep the conversation grounded. He brought up the fact that Trump has accused Comey of covering for Hillary along with the talk of rigged elections.
Joe and Mika weren't having any of it. They really tore into the guy.
I've watched both Joe and Mika rightly criticize Trump, even though they rolled out the red carpet for him during the primaries. There were times they called it right.
Looking back on that I've now realized that they do it in a calm manner and not get over emotional.
This morning is the second time I've seen Joe and Mika damn near come unglued when someone's observations counter theirs.
I don't expect a lot of objective observations from them, but to see the two come uncorked like this is bothersome. Thing is, I like a lot of the guests they bring on the show.
I feel fairly confident Hillary will win and even though I like some morning politics with my breakfast, I'm just gonna have to quit them. After the election, with a new president, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to tolerate them at all.
I can't stand Stephanie Ruhle.
I really miss Jose Diaz Balart. He made my mornings.
Any suggestions for morning news/political shows?
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)He's excellent.
Funtatlaguy
(10,871 posts)I'm not sure what happened to Mika.
She acts like she's had a lobotomy.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)making Hillary's point for her.
They were played and pwned.
dogindia
(1,345 posts)that is what happened when I turned to them after Morning j went crazy as was described
I have not watched enough to know how dependable this show is. I could not stand it this morning because of the horrible trump person.
I agreed with text above. Mika has gone crazy. Maybe she isn't a democrat
Are these a couple?
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)The only one I don't much care for is Wolf Blitzer...and immediately after a story negative to Clinton breaks they DO report it without a bias one way or the other, so that can annoy you. Other than that, CNN is actually great coverage.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Inane and irritating, and irritatingly inane, at best. Those include almost all daytime cable, although I also miss being able to tune in to Jose Diaz Balart.
I read the news in the morning, but I confess for viewing I do like to finish and sometimes start the day with recorded evening shows like Maddow, O'Donnell, Zakaria. Stories and interviews with people with expertise rather than spinners and flat-out liars trying to sucker the viewers. Yes, all satisfyingly friendly , but I try to make up for that in reading.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Chris Cuomo is the one to watch in the morning.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Nm
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)I left for work. I think Ford was making a great point and they - Mika especially this time, looked at him like he just said some terrible profanity at her. I couldn't believe her response.
I will watch sometimes despite them. Oh how I wish they just had a show like it without them. They have some useful guests.
getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)cnn is becoming the new fox.
oasis
(49,383 posts)getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)then I tune out till after mitchell.
oasis
(49,383 posts)to anything other. That's been my modus operandi for the last six months.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)She stutters through the questions too much and it makes her unwatchable, IMO.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)That means that it does also report things that are unfavorable to Clinton sometimes too...but they do NOT favor Trump and they do try to fact check and call the vile Trump surrogates out.
getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)or the small army of trump surrogates they insert into every topic?
And donna (I hate brazille but this is rediculous).
Sorry I dont concur.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)But Brazile got caught doing something super shady that showed bias. CNN is extremely serious about NOT being biased one way or the other and reporting as fairly as possible. What Brazile did was a really big deal as a result.
Trump's surrogates are on all networks and they are all nasty. If you want to avoid them then you just need to turn off the TV right now, lol.
getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)Not only does he have an active nda, he is on trumps payroll.
Really, he should NEVER have been hired.
Just out of curiousity, do you work at cnn?
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)shows until the election. There were times when I clicked on the CNN show with Chris Cuomo and it was okay. I'm not sure which show I will watch once the election is over.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Apparently they think Donna Brazile is disgusting, but Corey Lewandowski is A-OK.
Fuck them.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)And Chris Cuomo is one the absolute best journalist on TV, IMO. Brazile did do something wrong and just because she's a Democrat doesn't make it OK.
oasis
(49,383 posts)this blockheaded play.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)NPR on the radio, or Howard Stern (who gets famous people to say stupid things, like the time he baited Joe into making jokes about the dead intern) if you have Sirius.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)how will you know when to start worrying about how Hillary is doing without Mika giving the camera her best "concern" face?
Oh, how I wish they would give Joy Reid the weekday morning slot...! I'd tell you to watch Chris Cuomo on CNN, but there are so many Trump surrogates on that show. I've just given up on morning tv news completely.
Joy is wonderful. I wish they would give her a serious morning show. I watch her on weekends but it is a weird time for me.
Perhaps they should give her Chris Matthews spot as he has gotten really crazy too. I can hardly listen to him. He argues and interrupts all his guests. He has gotten out of control
patsimp
(915 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)He gets it more right than wrong a lot of times. He does have a habit of not challenging many of Trump's surrogates when he should. Sometimes Chuck Todd does a better job than Chris.
He's still ten times better than Mika and Joe.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)They at least presented multiple sides instead of just cutting off all clinton supporters before they can complete a full sentence.
Joe cannot stand for someone to openly disagree with him and he cuts them off immediately when they are in the middle of making a point. that, or he will interrupt to make a joke out of something that was said and then everyone at the table has to put in their two cents on his stupid joke, so the person who was interrupted never gets to finish their point.
he interrupts every black guest except for Al Sharpton. I think he knows he can't compete with him. Harold Ford, Jonathon Capehart, Eugene Robinson and Joy Reid all have to talk REALLY fast since they know they will be interrupted. Chris Matthews interrupts the same people, just like Joe.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)I've seen him go after people he doesn't like and he is merciless. There was a black journalist who moved from CNN to MSNBC and Joe just tore him apart. The look on the guy's face was one of disbelief. I can't remember his name now. He had a morning slot for a short time, but I haven't seen him in a long time. I really liked him.
erinlough
(2,176 posts)Charlie has complete control of every interview, even the horrible Kelly woman. He will stop her every time she goes into Trump speak and softly say, stay in the question....she does back down. They cover more stories than just politics and they are interesting. The interplay between them is interesting and brings out the best of each of them.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)but I can't put my finger on why. I gave up on Morning Joe a long time ago, so I just wait until afternoon before I turn on the TV.
Jarqui
(10,125 posts)never had the time or patience for him.
MistakenLamb
(522 posts)I listen on the radio occasionally
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)MJ repeats the start of their show at 8AM. I never fully understood why they do that. They really only do 2.5 hour show. Not a full 3 hours.
Plus CNN has better reporting and their hosts provide better and more objective content.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Bill Press at 7 am
Democracy Now at 8 am
Stephanie Miller at 9 am
I used to love C-Span, but left when it started having more and more conservatives on and too many of the callers are RW whackos.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)She could not fight her way out of a paper bag..
Wounded Bear
(58,653 posts)here on the west coast, they start at like 3 am.
Ain't gonna happen.