CNN reporting that FBI says "no criminal ties b/n Trump and Russia" on Wolf now. Wtf is the FBI

[anneboleyn]

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doing? We have the insane Comey letter Friday, which (imho) is a take-down attempt, the very damning release of documents related to a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD investigation into Bill Clinton TODAY (by damning I mean that it is clearly biased -- who the hell thinks that was a coincidence?), and now CNN is reporting that the "FBI" (I don't know who their sources are for this info) is saying that there are "no criminal ties between Trump camp and Russia."

These aren't just leaks -- this is an orchestrated attempt to change the outcome of the election. I have been very angry since Friday but now it is scary to see the FBI actively trying to serve the republicans and dominate the media the last week of the election (again imho) w/Clinton "scandals"

CNN now citing a statement from the FBI which says in a vague manner that "documents related to FOIA requests must be released" -- and it "automatically happened." Of course there is no hard deadline, and it certainly looks very, very mysterious. The helpful FBI stooge at CNN is trying to claim that this is all normal.

[JonathanRackham]

2. Funny how they came up with that conclusion so quickly.

[anneboleyn]

9. !!! Yes, they can't release any info but instead "leak" this conclusion BEFORE THE INVESTIGATION

is even concluded?! How convenient...

Now the FBI is claiming that they HAD to release the 2001 files because of a FOIA request...you know, release it today. Riiiiiight.

[RKP5637]

3. There is some type of Coup going on IMO. n/t

[Raster]

21. I concur. I believe there is internal turmoil at the FBI.

[RKP5637]

23. And Comey has lost control, he's getting hit from all sides, likely doesn't know what to do next.

There is far more than coincidence going on. I've always thought of the FBI as a rather RW uptight organization, just my thoughts over the years.

[Raster]

26. Again, I must concur. In addition to the OBVIOUS right-wing contingent, I also see...

...activity from a more measured, fair faction... the ones that leaked information about tRump and rUssia...

[getagrip_already]

5. cnn, the new fox news..........

that fbi report is so easy to slap down a rooky journalist could do it their first week.

cnn is choosing to give it credibility.

[Foggyhill]

6. Yeah, takes weeks to review a few emails

But a massive investigation with possibly thousands of man hours can be done in a jigfy

And no sources, just fucking anonymous leaks

It's time for a fucking clamp down the FBZi is out of control

Considering there is 10 people on staff with Russia links + fucking mana fort and carter page involved this fucking lsughable

CNN since Zuckers tirade is now a Trump org

[anneboleyn]

12. Exactly! The Comey FBI is OUT OF CONTROL. They are not being called out/condemned nearly

enough for this --

[blm]

7. Really? So Comey is prepared to make a formal statement? HORSESHIT!

They just started the investigation and are in the early stages.

[anneboleyn]

10. CNN has asked for statements on 2001 Bill Clinton release and this new leak but so far nothing

from the "noble" Comey.

[DFW]

8. At least they aren't trying to hide it

And it will give the AG some very powerful ammunition when justifying a sorely needed thorough cleansing of the Bureau.

[dawg]

11. Do you really think that will happen?

Or will we just try to hold hands with them and sing Kumbaya like we always do?

[Foggyhill]

14. It will be kumbaya, we are idiots

[dawg]

15. But we're so polite.

And one of these days, gosh darn it, the voters are going to realize that and reward us for it!

[DFW]

16. I think Hillary knows how to sing Kumbaya

I also think she knows how to sing, "Hit The Road, Jack."

I'm thinking she already has a pretty good idea of which one she will be singing once the election results are out. I also think Comey knows, too. He'll stick around for a while to save face, but I don't think he'll be taking his next summer vacation as Bureau Director. Maybe I'm being too optimistic.

[dawg]

18. I hope you are right.

You're in a much better position than I to have some degree of influence. And I realize that governing takes a fair amount of compromise, and that our leaders can't enact all of our liberal fever-dreams.

But, to me, this election has made it very clear that there are systemic threats to our democracy. It's no time for timidity, and I hope Secretary Clinton realizes that. More to the point, I hope the rest of the Democratic establishment realizes that.

[DFW]

22. I hope so too

I will have very little influence in the forming of her foreign policy unless I solicit an ambassadorship, something I am not inclined to do. My wife does not want to move, and though I would probably enjoy the pomp and the circle of colleagues, I'd probably get tired of having to be "diplomatic" all he time. Some enterprising hacker would go find past comments of mine about some of the people I would need to work with, and some of those comments are, shall we say, less than flattering.

I think Hillary and her circle of advisers are only too aware of what they are up against now, and will be up against after the election. No one expected the evil thrown at Obama. EVERYONE expects it to be thrown at Hillary now. Obama selected a team that was ready to get to work, not a team ready for a battle royal mounted against them for merely trying to do their jobs. There is no secret agenda this time. The Republicans threw their cards on the table eight years ago. It has been out in the open for all to see for eight years. Don't expect Hillary to ignore that, or to think that her willingness to cross the aisle in the past will be rewarded this time with anything other than frothing-at-the-mouth hostility, and accusations of trespassing.

[dawg]

24. I have every confidence in her.

I believe she, of all people, understands the situation.

It's our distinguished ladies and gentlemen in Congress that I'm worried about. I swear to God, if we win the Senate and yet somehow fail to enact rules that will allow us to appoint people to office with a simple majority, we will not be worthy of even calling ourselves a political party.

[DFW]

25. You're right to worry about Schumer as majority leader

What we need is someone like Sherrod Brown or Elizabeth Warren. I'm sure HRC would prefer that, too, but she knows it makes no sense for an incoming president to try to run roughshod over her own faction in the Senate. She'll need Schumer's help art every turn, and they both know she'll go along, but at a price she makes sure he knows he'll be expected to pay on time, and in full.

[uponit7771]

13. Straw man announcement...the ties don't have to be criminal to be wrong

[anneboleyn]

17. Excellent point. What is scary is the timing of all this nonsense. Plus I think it is pretty

obvious that Trump has Russian ties -- as you say they MAY not be criminal ties but still highly inappropriate and damning.

[MoonRiver]

19. Nothing can surprise me after the SCOTUS traitors picked bush for our president.

I think we're seeing an attempted repeat of that outrage by Comey. Fortunately he does not have as much power, so I think Hillary will still win.

[Coyotl]

20. Comey is running in 2020, obviously.

Then all this makes sense.

[TryLogic]

45. I hope that is all that is going on. Call me crazy, but I fear more of a non-violent coup.

Or if trump loses, a violent effort. Call me scared.

[Coyotl]

56. Troll much?

[Raster]

27. Is this the same FBI that TWICE now has violated their own internal policies...

...to offer their updates to Congress --whom they do not report to-- about the ongoing Clinton email investigations?

Is this the same FBI that thought releasing any reference to Russia attempting to influence this election via hacking would violate their internal policies of non-electoral influence, even though 17 US intelligence agencies and groups have confirmed Russian involvement?

[world wide wally]

28. So, all they do is release Comey's opinions?

[Mme. Defarge]

30. A shout out to the Washington Post

for some real journalism here!

[dhol82]

32. Thank goodness somebody is doing some decent investigative journalism.

It would be even better if others joined in.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. It's only been the print media putting the stories out there

The teevee is in la la land ever since their entertainment and news divisions were merged.

I accidentally watched the early part of the NBC Nightly News and they had a whole story on Russia - complete with file footage of Red Square and Russian soldiers in a parade and Putie shaking hands with some of his military leaders... But Trump's name wasn't mentioned anywhere in the whole segment because the focus of the story was on how Putin wants to "ban Microsoft" from Russia.

I know people have been CTing about a coup but.

[kairos12]

34. For me the FBI and the KGB (I know that's and old term) share more than 3 letters.

[DLCWIdem]

35. Yes I do believe there is collusion

I Don't know how to embed dem underground OP but there are 2 OP that deal with this. One is an OP that starts with when Guillani knew about Comey' s letter. The other is an OP dealing with the blow back article in NYT. Because the sources in that article come from Briebart. The first OP cited a dailykos article in which he argues that Guillani is colluding with FBI agents. That is why we should emphasize that those 4 RUSSIAN articles which deal with The Trump connection, cite sources in different intelligence agencies. After all it was the only the FBI that refused to sign the letter Which detailed the RUSSIAN attempt to influence the election.

[judesedit]

37. Who in the FBI? How much was he paid I wonder

[anneboleyn]

39. It would be very interesting to know. This is a travesty.

[TryLogic]

38. Owing Russian "investors" tons of money is not criminal. But it positions him to be owned by them.

I am assuming he owes Russian "investors" BIG money. He deals in BIG money, and is an expert at obtaining loans and creating debt.

And this: As far as I know, and I am not a historian, Hitler did not have a criminal relationship with Mussolini or Hirohito either.

[WheelWalker]

62. You mean other than conspiring to wage unprovoked war as aggresspr...

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

40. OK..... then explain to us how/why all their hack & meddling appears to benefit only DT? Im sure

theres a good reason (sarcasm).

[TomCADem]

42. Random Chance and No Connection...

...between Trump's incredibly pro-Russian views, which even his running mate opposes.

[BlueStateLib]

43. I think the fbi is infested with a bunch right-wing nuts

[TryLogic]

47. Sounds like a possibiity to me.

[uponit7771]

49. +1

[LisaL]

44. Move along. Nothing to see here.

All righty then.

[humbled_opinion]

46. Big hurdle in this

Many top Democratic officials praised FBI director Comey in his July 5th findings regarding Hillary's emails. Now attacking him as being biased and unfair is going to ring hollow and partisan. Personally I don't think this hurts her chances as much as the wingnuts are claiming. However, Comey should be forced to do a press availability before the end of the week.

[anneboleyn]

51. The repeated leaks are not helpful. The media's hysterical reporting is the worst aspect. But I

certainly hope that Hillary wins by a very solid margin next week.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

48. Sounds more like the KGB

Seriously...

[Still In Wisconsin]

52. It does seem like their style doesn't it? /eom

[Rocknrule]

50. I still don't get how the more-patriotic-than-thou party suddenly has such a hard-on for Russia

Republicans back in the day: "This here's Murika! We ain't got room for no commies here! Better dead then red!"
Republicans now: "I for one welcome our Russian overlords! As long as Putin's not black, female, or a Democrat, he's awesome in my book!"

[LAS14]

54. How does the FBI know there are no criminal ties?

When did it do an exhaustive investigation? How did they conclude it by now?

[workinclasszero]

55. I think the FBI has been compromised

By right wingers with ties to Russia, just like Trump.

[anneboleyn]

57. I know -- it is something I never thought I'd actually say but this shit is unbelievable

[Laydee]

59. Insane the way they are propping Trump up all the time

I think I saw this reported in the washington post today.



waves to everyone this is my first post here

[still_one]

60. There is only one thing that matters right now, and that is to GOTV for Hillary, and Senate

Democrats. Unless that happens everything else is moot.

There is a very good likelihood that the FBI has been compromised, and the only tool we have to crush this "coup" is to insure trump's defeat at the polls.

This IS the election of your life

[CarrieLynne]

64. something very strange is going on

[wic_canuck william]

65. James Iscariot

Why not? Both first names are five letters long and start with "J." durec

[secondwind]

66. What if they are saying this because the information is too sensitive and they would rather this

all go away?

Who the heck knows.