***** BREAKING*****HILLARY LEADS THE ORANGE HUED MUSSOLINI BY FOUR AMONG INDEPENDENTS

[DemocratSinceBirth]

[molova]

1. This is excellent news

It goes against an FBI-induced debacle narrative.
I believe Romney won independents, correct?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Romney won them by five. If we are tied or slightly ahead among Indies we are golden.

BTW, i sense another shift in the race, in our favor.

[whatthehey]

2. Online polls don't stop being useless shit when they are good, or even realistic

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Online polls * were some of the most accurate polls in 2012

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/11/the-most-accurate-polls-of-2012-148876





*Of course this assumes the proper controls are in place to ensure the poll captures what is a random sample.

[whatthehey]

6. Well there's a whole lot missing in that statement

Starting with it applying to national final pre-election polls not independent subsets a week out, and also ignoring that they were some of the worst too. And remember, it's the methodology that makes them crap, not the (final save your dignity cherry picked) results. I could probably have a pretty decent guess what the weather will be like in Stockholm next week, but it would have terrible meteorological methodology.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. You are never going to get a truly random sample with an internet panel.

But organizations like Pew, yougov, and ipsos reid are doing some good work.

[still_one]

4. Among independs it is 39% Hillary to 35%, that is what Bloomberg just

reported.

[mcar]

8. K&R