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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:19 AM Nov 2016

******BREAKING BATTLEGROUND MICHIGAN POLL****** CLINTON 47% TRUMP 28%

Published: Nov. 2, 2016
CLINTON WINNING MICHIGAN EASILY
Contact(s): Matt Grossmann , Cynthia Kyle , Andy Henion
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has a wide lead over businessman Donald Trump among likely Michigan voters, winning support from women, educated and non-white voters, a new Michigan State University State of the State Survey shows.

Among likely voters, 47 percent said they would vote for Clinton, a Democrat, and 28 percent said they would cast ballots for Trump, a Republican. Libertarian Gary Johnson took 11 percent and Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein won 4 percent.


http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2016/clinton-winning-michigan-easily/

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******BREAKING BATTLEGROUND MICHIGAN POLL****** CLINTON 47% TRUMP 28% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 OP
yeah! barbtries Nov 2016 #2
Really! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2016 #13
Yay!!! Spin that Joe and Mika. I am not watching any news until when I get home from working at the livetohike Nov 2016 #3
I havent rtracey Nov 2016 #26
I work the polls on Tuesday as well.... chillfactor Nov 2016 #51
Those numbers don't look right Renew Deal Nov 2016 #4
I was thinking the same thing Norbert Nov 2016 #6
I went to the link Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #25
Hope she wins the battleground states, shut Trump down on the east coast. Thinkingabout Nov 2016 #5
We are Hillary's firewall and we will hold our ground! jimlup Nov 2016 #7
Please, may it be like this everywhere. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2016 #8
?? MisterFred Nov 2016 #46
No. Get out and vote. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2016 #48
As a Spartan Johnny2X2X Nov 2016 #9
Sept1 - Oct30 polling interval Dem2 Nov 2016 #10
Great spread but jcgoldie Nov 2016 #11
Conducted September 1- October 30 molova Nov 2016 #12
Harry Enten said.... Adrahil Nov 2016 #15
Did they show Hillary losing the primary? awake Nov 2016 #16
Hillary only lost by a few thousand votes Renew Deal Nov 2016 #18
Well did they? awake Nov 2016 #19
They did not.... Adrahil Nov 2016 #21
Ok so not that we have established that the chickens have not yet hatched awake Nov 2016 #27
I NEVER count chickens.... Adrahil Nov 2016 #31
We Clinton supporters should look at this poll in the opposite Cheeto 47% and Hillary 28% kimbutgar Nov 2016 #17
You got that right! grossproffit Nov 2016 #40
Real Talk cheezmaka Nov 2016 #52
Woohoo! workinclasszero Nov 2016 #20
I certainly hope so! He should lose by at least 5 points nationally. Hopefully she gets over 300EV Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #29
Ouch alcibiades_mystery Nov 2016 #22
Voters are not bamboozled by Trump any longer. Coyotl Nov 2016 #23
Things starting to break for Hillary. DCBob Nov 2016 #24
Hey DCBob! Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #28
Never... but I will take it! DCBob Nov 2016 #30
yeah, as long as it's positive news, we'll take it! Local Fox has her up SEVEN! :) Good news, as Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #33
Sounds good. DCBob Nov 2016 #35
CHEERS! Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #37
Seems a bit high to me, but I'll take it as good news and positive news book_worm Nov 2016 #32
Right! Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #36
I live in Michigan AmericanMan1958 Nov 2016 #38
I live in a small town in TN. My friend was telling me about asjr Nov 2016 #47
absentee ballets are up by 19% elmac Nov 2016 #39
MI is part of the Democratic firewall. roamer65 Nov 2016 #41
Yep! llmart Nov 2016 #42
Plus, the republican governor poisoning Flint's water with lead had something to do with it. Crowman1979 Nov 2016 #43
agreed. I live in Michigan, and everybody I know HATES Rick Snyder putitinD Nov 2016 #53
This is not about the stone cold fact that Hillary will crush Trump in MI. She will. Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #44
Great post kwolf68 Nov 2016 #49
Wasn't he just there?? I bet he's going places his fired pollster told him he is losing adigal Nov 2016 #45
K&R napkinz Nov 2016 #50
Dec 1969 #

livetohike

(22,140 posts)
3. Yay!!! Spin that Joe and Mika. I am not watching any news until when I get home from working at the
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:22 AM
Nov 2016

polls on Tuesday.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
26. I havent
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:00 PM
Nov 2016

I haven't watched for months. Cannot stand to see and hear Trumps face spew his vitriol.

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
51. I work the polls on Tuesday as well....
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:51 PM
Nov 2016

and have worked every other voting day here in NM as well....with everything that has to be done after the polls close down on Tuesday, including breaking down all of the polling booths and such, the election maybe called before I ever get home. I hope I get home before it does.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
6. I was thinking the same thing
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

These are numbers you would expect in California.

Maybe America is wising up.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
25. I went to the link
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:00 PM
Nov 2016

It's a 60 day poll. I've never seen one of those..

"The survey was conducted Sept. 1-Oct 30 over cell phones and landlines"

A wonderful result, but strangely put together. Most polls are rolling 3-5 days.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
7. We are Hillary's firewall and we will hold our ground!
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

Count my vote for Hillary - I turned in my absentee ballot yesterday.

Michigan is going BLUE.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
11. Great spread but
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:30 AM
Nov 2016

Still 10% undecided and it would be unprecedented if 15% voted 3rd party means still a lot of instability... would love to see her numbers over 50.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
15. Harry Enten said....
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:40 AM
Nov 2016

That this outfit one was of the better Michigan pollsters in the primaries, for those worrying about another Michigan surprise.

awake

(3,226 posts)
16. Did they show Hillary losing the primary?
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:43 AM
Nov 2016

Most polls had Hillary way ahead in the Michigan primary this year.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
21. They did not....
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:53 AM
Nov 2016

They showed her with about a 5 point lead, but were the best of the bunch in the final polling.

awake

(3,226 posts)
27. Ok so not that we have established that the chickens have not yet hatched
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:01 PM
Nov 2016

Let us all get back to work to elect Hillary.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
17. We Clinton supporters should look at this poll in the opposite Cheeto 47% and Hillary 28%
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:46 AM
Nov 2016

And vote like our life depends on it because it does!!!!!


cheezmaka

(737 posts)
52. Real Talk
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:53 PM
Nov 2016

I'm not taking anything for granted... We have a strong ground game in Michigan. Cheeto's got to go!

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
33. yeah, as long as it's positive news, we'll take it! Local Fox has her up SEVEN! :) Good news, as
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:04 PM
Nov 2016

that should be a firewall of protection from him even coming close in Michigan, and beyond the MOE. So, it's looking good Michigan will certainly go BLUE!

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
32. Seems a bit high to me, but I'll take it as good news and positive news
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:02 PM
Nov 2016

that Michigan will stay Blue, as expected. Other recent polls show a smaller 5-7 point lead for her and Clinton herself is going to Michigan later this week to reinforce her lead.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
36. Right!
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:08 PM
Nov 2016

We'll take the great news, but it's 60 day polling cycle is way outside the norm. The fact is Drumpf has no chance in Michigan with, as you mentioned, Hillary being ahead of him past the margin of error!

So, if we could just get a few points in Florida to separate them a bit, and hope for a squeaker in Ohio, she could easily get 350 even if she "only" beats him by 4 or 5 points nationally. I don't know where the LA Times is getting their numbers from, btw, they always have Trump ahead it seems, against everyone else's polling...

AmericanMan1958

(520 posts)
38. I live in Michigan
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:23 PM
Nov 2016

Very few people I know and work with are not falling for Trump's Bull$hit!!
And I work for a very large corporation.
People I know who are Republicans have not been happy with Trump.
Those who are Trump supporters, are angry people and have few friends.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
47. I live in a small town in TN. My friend was telling me about
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:26 PM
Nov 2016

the schools here are having "a voting day." Her grandchild, a girl, was livid about it when she was picked up at 3:00. Ranting and raving as only a young girl of 11 can do was telling her grandmother what happened. All in her class voted for Trump except her. She voted for Hillary' Her fellow students were making fun of her but knowing her they will not be doing that much longer. Don't the teachers realize those students were repeating what their family had said.
Next time that happens I told her to answer the question Why did you vote for her, she should have said "because I am not stupid." No other state could be redder than TN.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
39. absentee ballets are up by 19%
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:27 PM
Nov 2016

from 2012. Voters registration up more then that. Yes, sniffles is going to get fired!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
41. MI is part of the Democratic firewall.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:48 PM
Nov 2016

Drumpf's chances of winning here are nearly zero.

We will help elect Hillary Rodham Clinton the 45th POTUS with 16 EV's.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
42. Yep!
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:56 PM
Nov 2016

I was never worried about Michigan. She's going to win big here. I already voted absentee over a week ago. I never considered it a battleground state.

Michigan - we've got this!!!! Now come on Ohio (my birthplace) - make me proud!!!

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
43. Plus, the republican governor poisoning Flint's water with lead had something to do with it.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:02 PM
Nov 2016

A Republican will never win any electoral votes from Michigan ever again.

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
44. This is not about the stone cold fact that Hillary will crush Trump in MI. She will.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:21 PM
Nov 2016

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My beef is the inconsistency and selective favouring/disfavouring of "this poll" and "that poll" and this poll and......

When the ABC/Washington Post poll had Sec Clinton up 12 points people acted like it was gods lips to their ears. Then when it yesterday, after 9 days of crashing out, had Trump up 1(gag), it was satan run, a Putin poll, etc.

My point is that it was off both times, an outlier, even when it was in our favour.

NOW we come to this poll. By far the dominant narrative on here is that Stein and Johnson are shit, will be lucky to get 3 or 4% between them (with Stein sub 1%). I agree.

So why, why are so many praising a poll that gives these 2 cretin fucktwits FIFTEEN PERCENT???

We are the party of science and reason and intelligence. We should not play "I wish it was so and so it shall be" games. Leave that shite, that illogical mindset to the bible bangin Rethug scum.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
49. Great post
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:49 PM
Nov 2016

The cherry picking here is obvious, but that's to make people feel good about things. The fact is Hillary has a tough road to go, this election will be close. Diehard Hillary supporters can't believe she is only marginally more popular than the buffoon she is running against, but alas that's the case.
 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
45. Wasn't he just there?? I bet he's going places his fired pollster told him he is losing
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:24 PM
Nov 2016

Just to try to prove him wrong.

Keep going, Donnie!!

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