2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPlaying with the Elctoral College map, I didn't realize how hard it is for Trump to win
Hillary can lose Florida, North Carolina and Nevada and still win 273 to 265 as long as she carries everything she is already leading in by pretty safe margins. She would have to lose Nevada and NH and from what I am hearing Nevada sounds like it's almost out of reach for Trump from early voting and I am nut buying that its close in NH and neither are the betting sites. She wins Nevada or NH (not even both of them) and it's over! There is no path for Trump.
This is based on her winning Colorado but the betting odds puts Colorado as safer than even PA despite one close poll.
Have a go at it yourself:
http://www.270towin.com/
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I'm from there but live in Mass now I volunteer up there almost everyday I'm not working.
I can't tell you what will happen there...
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Wild shifts. Wacko is a good description. I can't believe we backed off the gas based on a handful of favorable polls.
Even if we win New Hampshire by decent margin it was moronic to take it for granted.
DemKittyNC
(743 posts)I really do not see how he has a chance. Nov 8th if they call early that Hillary wins either NC or Florida than the election is over for sure! =)
Quixote1818
(28,936 posts)AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I suspect she'll be about 100 short of that number.
AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)Combined with African Americans, well minorities in general, and the greatest Latino/Hispanic turnout will be way more than any of the models have predicted. Plus, this year I have seen more Republicans vocally, publicly crossing over because they do not want to support Trump...thank goodness for that. Anyway, all combined I think this election is historic in many ways and unlike any we have seen before really. I actually went back and looked and the maps have been more blue, like mostly blue multiple times in our history. Personally, I would love it if she could get 525 because that would break the record for most EVs which is now held by Ronnie Raygun the dadgum actor,
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...but it's hard for me to imagine her topping 361. Looking at your 424 map, if you take Montana, Alaska, Utah, Georgia and Texas away from Clinton, then Clinton ends up with 361.
274 seems like the worst case scenario. I'm thinking she'll end up with 322 or 323 (depending on that district in Maine).
VOX
(22,976 posts)And that's a very sober, safe estimate.
On edit: Of course, I'd love to see her clobber that bastard, just bury him in electoral votes...but I'm trying to look at it as coolly as possible.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)Use the interactive map and just TRY to figure out how Drumpf could possibly win this - you'll feel SO much better!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)It's Nevada, Nevada, Nevada.
Gore would have won in 2000, (270 - W's 267) had he focused more on Nevada and not so much on Florida.
And what do we see for Clinton's much smarter campaign team? They're giving Nevada its due.