Has the Clinton campaign been reaching out to white guys?

[Onlooker]

I live in a blue state, so haven't seen many ads, but a friend from PA said that all the Clinton ads seem to marginalize white men and feels that is playing into the hands of Trump. The ads I've seen by the Clinton campaign, mostly thanks to links on DU, are great, but they certainly emphasize women and minorities. Just out of curiosity, do some of her ads emphasize the struggles of blue collar workers, including white guys? Has she campaigned in hostile areas?

[LAS14]

4. I think it's an excellent question.

I was struck by how Michigan seemed to be a true learning experience for many of us, including Hillary. That there is a real problem in our country that needs to be addressed. I trust that she'll follow up on her promises to Bernie and pay them attention when she gets in office. Not because she "promised," but because she's a person who wants to fix things that are broken. Because she cares.

I'd be interested to hear some facts in answer to your question. If they haven't played such ads, then I'll chalk it up to campaign strategy, not blindness or deafness to the problem.

[JTFrog]

54. When she talks about working families you need her to specify white dudes?

Seriously?

"If they haven't played such ads..."

Is this the new FBI headquarters? Toss something out and hope it sticks?

This is DU not a Fox audience. For fuck's sake.

[bettyellen]

110. "Families" is code for women and children according to selfish fucks....

These selfish assholes need to hear about blue collar jobs that pay high for those with little education- the kind of jobs that they kept from women and POC for years. They were born on third base and want to hog home plate for themselves- and only share scraps with the most grateful of women and children.

[Coyotl]

6. Why haven't you watched the ads yourself? Small sample:

You know, instead of posting concern.

View another 100 or so by following these to the channel:

[Onlooker]

9. Thanks for posting those

Not really able to watch much because I'm overseas for the last week and next week (I voted early), so my anxiety about this election and all the angry white guys is based on what I read in the news.

[yardwork]

13. So you haven't actually watched Hillary's ads but you "know" they marginalized you.

Uh huh.

[Onlooker]

125. I asked a question

I'm gay, and Hillary's been great. Not marginalized by her.

[LAS14]

33. Thanks for the ads. But how do you suggest we "watch the ads" if...

... we live in a place where the campaigns aren't showing ads?

[Coyotl]

38. All the ads are on youtube.

This is the newest:

The Briefing channel is just one of them: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRyE0W-DFgBlfd111fts6tQ/videos

I also subscribe to the Hillary Clinton channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLRYsOHrkk5qcIhtq033bLQ/videos

This one was posted one minute ago as I composed, now the newest:

[LAS14]

45. I don't see any here targeting the problem of having lost....

... the hope of a good middle-class life, the kind their fathers and grandfathers had. Hillary has spoken eloquently about this in rallies and debates. I trust her awareness and concern. I trust her to think creatively for solutions to this really knotty problem that is tearing us apart.

But it looks like the answer to the OP's question is that they haven't deemed it useful to create such ads.

[obamanut2012]

62. lolz

[Hekate]

133. Both of my grandpas had an 8th grade education, but they were born in the 1880s. Dad had high school

He was born in 1918. He picked up a technical 2-year degree in mid-life. My brother with the least education has an Associate's degree, the other brother has a Masters, and I have a Doctorate. We are the so-called "Boomers." My son has a Bachelor's and is a software engineer.

Do you see the pattern here? Education. Back in the day the men you refer to didn't have to have much of that fancy book-larnin' in order to provide for their families -- especially if they were in a union, like my dad.

The GOP's hero, Reagan, broke the back of the unions. Places like Bethlehem Steel were allowed to go under and dissolve their pension holdings, leaving union workers and retirees holding the very empty bag. Plants closed and moved, and that was before Bill Clinton ever ran for public office.

My heart goes out to those men. But I'm a Democrat, so guess what? My heart also goes out to everyone else as well. As the saying goes, it's not all about them. We're all in this together.

[sunweaver]

108. Thank you!

I enjoyed all of them.

And I don't understand how people can see Hillary and not realize that she is a person of great compassion.

[duncang]

7. White guy here

I don't think any of them marginalized white men. Basic common decency and equality should be enough for some. To me that is a major reason to me. But sadly that doesn't play well for everyone. I would like to see more of the jobs and economy in ads which would reach across wider audience. They did have at least one that hit that. That could also boost the iron belt vote. Not sure what is playing there.

[metroins]

8. Hillary isn't marginalizing, but some supporters are

Hillary speaks about women a lot and minorities, but I never felt she, herself, was marginalizing white men.

There most certainly are some supporters who are, and a swath of DU members who do. The Democratic party has people marginalizing.

Hillary should have done more reach out, and she bombed with that coal worker on stage, but I honestly don't see her trying to push me out of the party.

[GulfCoast66]

19. How exactly do you marginalize white guys?

We have all the fucking power in this country. It will be centuries before we are marginalized. Does life suck for some of us? Sure. But all the forces that are making things tough for 'white guys' are magnified tremendously for people of color. Perhaps some 'white guys' are getting a taste of what not being on top feels like. And rather than supporting polities that mitigate the problems they instead scapegoat the normal groups who are actually marginalized.

Hopefully this OP will shortly be marginalized.

[metroins]

46. Lol

You're funny.

[tavernier]

64. Exactly what I wanted to post

but much better coming from a guy.

[AgadorSparticus]

86. ^^^^^^THIS!!!!!!^^^^^^^ winning response, right here!

[LAS14]

58. Thanks for your rational response.

[yardwork]

10. I alerted on your OP as a right wing talking point.

Take this someplace else.

[DURHAM D]

12. Yep.

[LAS14]

36. This is bizarre! If you ask a question about strategy.

If you assume that, in the end, we need to attend to ALL Americans. if you assume that behind the right-wing rage are real issues that Dems had damn well better pay attention to. Then you're right wing???? I thought My Way or the Highway was the right-wing cause of gridlock.

[upaloopa]

49. TThe trump campaign is nothing but telling lies to those who belive the lies.

Last edited Sat Nov 5, 2016, 11:20 AM - Edit history (2)

Hillary can't be blamed for not giving credence to the lies.

[LAS14]

55. So running an ad focusing on the pain globalization...

... has caused for some in our society would be giving credence to lies???? We're never going to heal. Never going to get past gridlock if this attitude dominates the Dems. I know it's not Hillary's attitude.

[Foggyhill]

84. "pain of globalisation".... Pain to whom? The white guys (tm) are the least affected by any downturn

on the whole and have the highest average wage.

Most studies on trade deals say their positive as a whole for the nation, and since "white guys" have the most
money in the US its probably the most positive for them.

They're certainly positive on the whole for the nations abroad that trade with us.
They have a huge advantage in labor costs and there is no way the US can compete with them
even with huge barriers on that count. Trying is just making the US less competitive and
more vulnerable to tech upheavals.

The kind of blue collars jobs they lost would likely have been lost regardless, just delayed slightly.

Most studies of trade deals deem them neutral at worst.

The shift in jobs from manufacturing to STEM and tertiary, etc is not predicated on trade deals.

[AgadorSparticus]

92. White make sympathizers miss this huge tidbit. Kind of like Christians who think they are persecuted

[LAS14]

113. OK, "white guys" has come to mean something else since...

... this election cycle. Both Bernie (Michigan wasn't all youth) and Trump have educated us to the distress of a segment of "white guys." The fact that you don't know this, didn't recognize what the OP was referencing, shows that the process of education isn't complete.

The "white guys" that have become so angrily vocal in this election are the ones whose fathers and grandfathers lived satisfying, comfortable middle class lives, protected by a strong union culture. When manufacturing spread around the globe and the union movement was so damaged they no longer have that kind of life. They can't expect it for their kids. But they remember it. That's why many of them are so angry.

I'm not ignoring the capacity for all those "isms" people have been listing, but if we're ever to get beyond that, we have to address this problem as well as a bunch of others.

[Foggyhill]

126. This way of life is not coming back, because well, we are not 50 years ago

The post WWII had the US having little to fear from foreign competition because well, it had been wiped out.
The US had the best industrial base (from the massive war investment) and extremely high productivity (because wages had been depressed so long)
There was pent up demand from 20 years of depressed economic output in consumer goods and the fact only it had came out unscathed from the war.

There were very special circumstances at play there.

So, wages and benefits could go high with little external pressures.
Lowly educated workers could work in low qualification jobs for a high wage.

This is gone, there is no way you can go back to that.
No amount of protectionism or anti-trade deals will get back those low qualification high wage jobs.

The problem is that trade is not the issue here, it is trickle down that has damaged these people.

Normally, money from those highly qualified new jobs in the new economy would be taxed and the government would use it to give these people a better health care, give their kids a cheaper better education, invest in technology and R&D, ease their transition to retraining and government programs.

The thing is, despite that not exisiting, those uneducated white guys, still have it better than women and minorities of the same education level. That's the irony of this.

Finally ending trickle down is the key to the US wealth being redistributed, attacking trade deals is just the last form of acceptable xenophobia and a convenient scapegoat for problems of wealth redistributions that are mostly internal to the US itself.

[LAS14]

134. I'm not focusing on trade. I don't know what the solution is.

What I do know is that people who have had this experience need to know that their government recognizes it and is looking for a way to equalize the wealth gap, to bring back the fairer distribution that we had after WWII. It's not as if the wealth doesn't exist!

[Foggyhill]

135. That I agree on. the wealth created by trade is not redistributed because of trickle down policies.

The 1950s also had very high tax rates.
That's something the GOP conveniently forget to talk about.

[Hekate]

136. ^^^^THIS!!!^^^^ In 1950 Europe & Asia had been wiped out by the War(s), & the US was the only game

...left in town. Our infrastructure had not been blown to smithereens, for one thing, and you covered most of the rest.

Also, all those women who had worked the factories and assembly lines during the war were fired and sent home without so much as a thank-you as soon as the troop ships brought the men back. White men were in a very special place -- black men, and women of any color, not so much.

Those days are gone forever. Sorry about that.

[Foggyhill]

140. Yeah, white male didn't have oversees competition, but also no minorities and women

to compete with because of extreme misogyny (which made a glorious comeback after the immediate pre war and war years) and racism.

For women, it was a big fallback in liberty that wasn't fully compensated for by the huge step up in standard of living.
They were expected to be baby making machine while their man brought home the bacon.

White men were truly king of the world (not just the USA).

By the mid 1960s, foreign competition from Europe and Japan
were able to exploit the complacency born of those easy years to carve out strong areas of growth.
The fact they had been bombed out meant their equipment when they finally invested in them in the late 1950s to early 1960s were newer and more productive.
The European internal market developed rapidly centered on Germany; the EU was created.
The booming inefficient 1950s-1960s had made the US heavily dependent on foreign oil (which would soon have an impact).

By the mid 1960s, economic and social upheaval hit at the same time.

For the southern strategy former democrats, feminism (by extension abortion), liberals (minorities, youth culture) were the convenient reason for what occured in the late 1960s.

That's still the case now. The "whites" long for this mythical early 1960s were they were kings and minorities and women knew their place.

[upaloopa]

100. Don't say "so" as if you are repeating my thoughts.

What you just posted are your words not mine!

[obamanut2012]

63. lolz

[yardwork]

95. Take it back to JPR. We're not playing your games anymore.

Go snigger at photoshops of the Democratic candidate.

[JTFrog]

61. Agree 100%. nt

[treestar]

14. why do that when the other groups are the ones who will

give her support? Why waste time trying to convert white guys when women are more likely to respond? There are liberal white men who will vote for her, and they are the smart ones and don't need ads or appeals, the rest would not respond to anything anyway.

[LAS14]

40. Because "white guys" are part of our country.

Because they represent real issues. Because we need to heal, not divide.

I'm willing to give the campaign discretion in where their time and money is best spent, but not to base it on the assumption that a whole 40% of our country doesn't deserve to be heard. We need to get to the point, somehow, that we can move beyond rage.

[obamanut2012]

67. I know this disappoints you, but white men are not 40% of the US

Your posts are ridiculous in this thread. White men are not marginalized in any way, in this country or HRC's ads.

[LAS14]

116. See my response #113

[duffyduff]

69. This is all mansplaining telling women what to do. Predictable. n/t

[LAS14]

115. Hmmm.... so you know what sex I am??? Interesting.

[GulfCoast66]

15. White guys? Really?

This 50 year old, southern middle class white guy thinks so. Because I care about social justice, racial and sex equality and a government that actually tries to improve the lives of the people.

But if by 'white guys' you really mean misogynistic white guys who do not like Mexicans then not so much. She is pretty much telling them to choke on her upcoming Presidency.

[LAS14]

119. See my response #113

[NCTraveler]

22. "they certainly emphasize women and minorities."

WTF?

"do some of her ads emphasize the struggles of blue collar workers, including white guys?"

Forgot the sarcasm tag. Even then it would be extremely poor sarcasm.

[lillypaddle]

24. Wow

That's what you get for asking a simple, honest question. You must have pissed off some of the cool kids.

[LAS14]

35. Thanks, Lilypaddle, for speaking up several times here.

See my response #34.

[lillypaddle]

65. Back atcha

[Adrahil]

29. I'm a white guy. I don't feel marginalized.

Too many blue collar workers want to hear that the steel mills will re-open. That we're gonna mine coal again. That's what they want to hear. Well guess what, it ain't gonna happen, and no magic wand can make it happen.

[LAS14]

34. This thread makes me pessimistic about the prospect of overcoming the split...

... in our country. The knee jerk insults to the OP are not a recipe for healing.

[upaloopa]

44. The OP does not need an answer from us. Hillary does not marginalize anyone. She says she wants to

be the president of all the people.

The OP distorts that ideal into us verses them. If the OP writer understood Hillary they would not post what they did.

I find the OP to be attacking Hillary from the view point of Trump.

[upaloopa]

39. White guys don't need adds to support Hillary. If you have half a brain you could see that her

programs include helping everyone be the best they can be.

The adds portray the need to help those who the right marginalize. The right does not marginize white men.

The change we need is not to change back to the fifties when white men had all the privilege, but to the future where everyone
is included

[JTFrog]

47. The country has catered, almost exclusively, to white dudes for 240 years.

If they still don't feel like sharing with the rest of the country, well that's just too fucking bad. Seems that a whole shit ton of them prefer the KKK candidate anyway.

She has ads talking about uplifting blue collar and working families. What exactly would you like her to offer you white guys? What areas do you consider hostile? And hostile to whom? White guys?

I really hate this place some days.

[LAS14]

51. Stop accusing the OP of saying Hillary of marginalizes white men.

He/she asked a question about ad strategy. I assume he/she believes that Hillary does NOT want to marginalize white men. She has spoken eloquently in debates and rallies of the problems of those parts of our society who have lost their way of life because of globalization.

We've got to stop acting like grid-lock Republicans when Hillary finally gets in office.

[JTFrog]

59. Stop defending an incredibly ignorant post.

Like it or not, this kind of crap needs to be called out for what it is. To pretend that the OP is presenting a legitimate concern is absolutely pathetic.

[duffyduff]

74. Men need to stop telling women what to do. n/t

[JI7]

79. there is nothing that shows supporters have it worse than others

Their complaint is all about minorities having equal rights.

[uponit7771]

82. This OP is straight up hidden innuendo via question.

[misterhighwasted]

87. + a million.

Hillary has spoken to everyone.
If a segment of the population chooses to look away then that's their problem.

She has left no one out. Maybe they just aren't listening.

Look for the white man identity in her ROAR Vid:
Pretty big tent she has.

[ck4829]

66. I'm white and male, and Hillary has personally impressed me

The flak she has taken from Republicans in Congress as well as from the media (And now from the FBI) and she is still standing vs bringing out the kid gloves for Donald Trump. Can anyone see Donald Trump going to the umpteenth Benghazi panel and being asked the same questions by people who are actively looking for something, anything, to destroy your career with? I don't think Trump could take the fishing expeditions she has been through already, heck, I don't think he could do an actual fishing trip. I don't think that needs to be made into an ad, if you've faced adversity or disparate treatment, no matter your ethnicity or gender, you should see something in this race, and you should see something in Hillary.

[JI7]

76. She picked a white man to be her VP running mate

I agree with Boston bean. The OP is right wing framing by making it as if talking about minorities and women is marginilizing white men.

[AgadorSparticus]

94. Right??!!?!! A white man is her running mate and someone asks if HRC

Campaign is marginalizing white men. ...the stupid burns deeply with this bs.....

[LiberalFighter]

77. Why should it be white men?

The problem is that there is a certain segment of white men that support Republicans. Deplorables are not going to be persuaded by anything Hillary or any Democrat is going to say. But educated white men can be persuaded but they don't need to have it targeted to them. They are smart enough to figure it out.

[liberal N proud]

83. Old white guy here - I feel they have

But then I am involved.

[hatrack]

85. Speaking as a middle-aged white guy, I have at no point felt marginalized or excluded . . . .

Not sure what you're driving at here, but hey, have fun.

[aaaaaa5a]

88. Funny, all I have heard about this entire election is the white working class man. NT

[femmedem]

90. The percent of white men in her ads is about equal to the percent of white men in our country.

They're there, but we're so used to seeing them dominate everything that they appear marginalized just by being proportionally represented.

Sorry to see all the hate here. DU is like Lord of the Flies sometimes.

[tevolit]

93. Tevolit

I'm thinking that the targeting of the Ads is well thought out.

I often see an AD that points out how Trump denigrates this group and that group. I do wish that it could point out that he denigrates short men. I know there are many men who are sensitive to it. I wouldn't want to support anyone who makes fun of short people.

I suppose the marketers couldn't find a way to include it in the Ads. Having Trumps words of "Little Marco" in the Ad probably would have lessened the impact of the rest of the insults and not fully captured the venom in the concept anyway.

Perhaps a separate Ad could have been made for it.

What about showing some of the many lives that were saved by ObamaCare!

Ads that talked of getting the minimum wage up would have been nice.

How about an Ad about how we can't have equal trade with countries that allow their workers to live in tents and their environment to be destroyed.

Women seem to be more sensitive to certain issues.
Blacks seem to be more sensitive to certain issues.
Hispanics seem to be more sensitive to certain issues.

It might be a decent strategy to show white men some "focused" love,(it's human nature) because they are a large group and many of them are not republicans. Although, perhaps doing so would drive some of the other groups away.(I wouldn't think so.)

And that is what the OP is all about.

[Foggyhill]

99. The problem is that because of Trump, issues no matter what they are have been pushed out

More ads would not make a lick of difference, this election is not about issues at all.

[Duckhunter935]

101. You know you can't say that

Or even think it sadly

[JTFrog]

112. .

[tonyt53]

102. Hell, I'm a white male in my early 60's. Perfect demographic for a Trump supporter.

BUT the big difference is that I'm no an idiot. I am actually quite insulted at the simplicity of the words spoken by Trump, like "I know words, the best words". The commercials I have seen for Hillary have been direct and make very valid points. Maybe I'm this way because I didn't spend four years in the fifth grade. Or maybe because I didn't drop out of high school.

[mathematic]

104. Yes, "We don't see eye to eye"

Old white guy, military vet, uses that talking point in an ad I saw. Something like "We don't see eye to eye on everything but she's strong and I respect her." Then some stuff about his young grandkids. Basically the message is trump is an unstable lunatic and you don't need to be perfectly aligned with clinton to support her over trump. Which is a message I think everybody can appreciate.

[guillaumeb]

105. White guys are also concerned about racism, and misogyny.

White guys cannot be categorized any more than non-white guys, or women of whatever color, or LGBTQ people of whatever color.

My feeling is that most people do recognize that what marginalizes one person marginalizes all people, but the media prefers to put the focus on the gun carrying Trump supporters to better frame this election as a battle that might turn violent. Violence and anger make for better sound bites.

Trump's comments about women resonate with me because my mother was a woman. My wife, daughters, and sisters are women. Many of my friends are women.

The ads I have seen show Clinton reaching out to people.

[Lucinda]

106. Yep they do and yep she has. n/t

[Hekate]

111. Your friend in PA is seeing what he wants to see. I've seen the ads in very diverse California....

....and Hill seems to be speaking to a diverse population. If that means the people in the ads are not 100% white and women are not relegated to wifey roles -- well, tell your friend to look around. Or maybe travel more.

[JTFrog]

114. White guys should be reaching out to other white guys and telling them how fucking ignorant, selfish

and childish they are being when they support a racist, misogynistic piece of shit who constantly whines about giving the country back to the white guys. Maybe those white guys could learn to fucking share a little of what they have enjoyed for the last 240 years.

Or you could just go on whining along with them I guess.

[bettyellen]

118. ^^THIS^^

[Dem2]

117. Oh geez, should they remove all but the white guys from this ad?

[LAS14]

120. See my response #113

[JTFrog]

121. Not the least bit impressed. nt

[Rex]

123. White guy here, she has us behind her in legion. All over the country. Look at the numbers.

Such a silly question imo. Like pretending all hunters are cons or that everyone in the military is a Rambo Jesus.

[iemitsu]

129. All your bases are belong to us.

[aikoaiko]

137. I think this may be a BIG part of her winning strategy.

All through the campaign her ads, speeches, and surrogates have been pounding the inclusive message to those who have been historically marginalized such as women, people or color, LGBT, etc.

By not appealing directly to straight white men it helps build the coalition and energize those who have been marginalized. I think it is working.

If straight white men remember that equality and justice for others unlike them are things they value they will vote for her even if they don't see her trying to relate to them or doubt they see any improvement in their lives. Just as I did. I didn't vote with great zeal or with happy expectations like I did for Obama, but I voted for her anyway -- for the sake of the nation.

Fortunately, Trump is so repulsive, he is pushing fence-sitters toward HRC, too.

[Hekate]

138. Have you seen any of what JOE BIDEN has been doing? He's on total outreach to your pal's demographic

[ericson00]

139. I know you're taking heat on this, but you have a good point; if Trump's close on Tuesday, or (gulp)

he wins, it will hard to think that maybe a few more white men (who do make up enough of the electorate to make a difference) in the ads and commercials couldn't have made a difference.

Progressives and Democrats shouldn't appear (or hold) distasteful of white men because of how that demographic votes in Presidential elections. Its not like white men vote 100% for Republicans. Do we like conservatives who disparage blacks because they vote 90% Democratic?

Also, there's only so far idealism goes before one needs to face reality.

[bettyellen]

145. Reality is the white male holdouts are selfish bigots who think they have what they do because

Of their own boot straps. You can feed their delusions without damaging her empathetic and brilliant campaign.
Especially since these men are now unimportant in the scheme of things. Yeah, some are bummed they aren't being catered to as they were for generations. They all need to grow the fuck up. Their time has past and we should celebrate the passing of their "supremacy".

[NNadir]

142. As an old fat, bald white guy, I resent the implication that my demographic needs...

...to be coddled to be decent. I, for one, do not need to have my fellow Americans of diverse cultural backgrounds denigrated and marginalized to feel that Ms. Clinton is with me and I with her.

I am proud, as proud as hell, to live in a nation of immigrants, and am decended from immigrants. My best professional friends are immigrants, my brother-in-law is an immigrant, my nieces are first generation.

We are not a bunch of racist, empty headed thugs to whom one must appeal to make us decent.

Many old, fat, bald white men are intrinsically decent, as are many thin hairy old white guys, and many young hairy white guys, including my son who will get up with me as early as is possible to vote for Ms. Clinton.

[Hekate]

143. Well said

[Onlooker]

146. Then you know about white privilege

And possibly can even comprehend that some white straight men who are losing jobs to quualified women and minorities feel disempowered in ways they are not used to. Trump is basically promising to restore their power with his racist, mysogynist campaign. By reaching out to them, Hillary would be telling them there is a better way and that women and minorities are not their enemy. So, that's why I am wondering if any if her ads are oriented towards them. I think it would be good strategy, and maybe help some Trump types chill a little.

[NNadir]

147. Well, I know what racism is what I see it.

And certainly I know what ignorance is. My father, for one example, had an eighth grade education. Were he alive - he's not - he would have a hard time voting for Hillary Clinton.

I loved my father; but frankly he was a racist, although my mother didn't permit him to raise me as one. Frankly I wouldn't want her to make ads to reach him because they, um, it wouldn't work.

Anyone...absolutely anyone who at this point is thinking of voting for that horrible excuse for a human being, Trump, is frankly beyond reach. I agree with Ms. Clinton's initial description: They are deplorables.

I'm white, but I'm not stupid and racist.

It's quite possible that it's stupid and racist to assume that the bulk of white men are stupid and racist. We're, um, not.

[aaaaaa5a]

144. Since I have been old enough to vote....

This party has nominated for President

1992-Southern White Man/Southern White Man

1996- Southern White Man/Southern White Man

2000-Southern White Man/Jewish Man

2004-Northern White Man/Southern White Man

2008-Black Man/Northern White Man

2012-Black Man/Northern White Man

2016-Woman/Southern White Man


Please explain to me how in a country where women are the majority and blacks, hispanics and asians make up a third of the population, that somehow white men are being excluded from the political process.

Even as the Democratic party depends more and more on minorities, they have NEVER had a Presidential ticket that did not include a white male. As Southern White men move further and further away from our party, we STILL, nominate White Southern Men for our ticket the overwhelming majority of the time. In fact in our last 7 Presidential tickets, Southern White Men have been on the ticket 5 times! I can assure you, we are NOT getting 5 of every 7 Southern White Male votes in return!

If you want to feel excluded, try being 52% of the country, a very important voting block for the Democrats, and yet this is the first time EVER, that a woman has been on the top of the ticket. EVER!. Until 2008, no black person was ever even considered for any position on the ticket. EVER! And keep in mind, the Democrats are suppose to be the party of diversity!

The world that some white men live in is so different from the world others live in in this country.


I always find it interesting, that has a black person, there are probably very few white men in this country that have worked harder, campaigned for, and voted for the demographic of "Southern White Male" for president or VP more often than I have. Minorities and women have a tremendous record supporting white male Presidential candidates.

I hope this rant provides a little perspective.

Go HILLARY!