Final national NBC/WSJ poll of '16 race HRC +4 - +5

[Cattledog]

Clinton 44
Trump 40
Johnson 6
Stein 2

2way
Clinton 48
Trump 43

Nov 3-5, MOE +/- 2.7

[Iliyah]

1. Thank GAWD majority of these polls both national and state are doing their final

projections. Whew

[RelativelyJones]

2. Will Johnson really get 6?

[BlueStreak]

6. No way. And that illustrates the fallacy of polling.

[sunonmars]

4. Compared to 2012 this is excellent, final polls, had a tie or +-1

[book_worm]

5. By point of reference the final NBC/WSJ poll in 2012 had Obama up by 1

[BlueStreak]

8. And Obama won by 4% or 5 million votes. What was the proverbial margin of error?

Probably 3%. Statistical nonsense, these polls. Wrap a bunch of scientific words around the polls and people start to believe it is a science.

In reality, there is so much polling going on the quality is extremely low. They should be regarded as one indicator among many -- not the final word. In this instance, it seems to me that the unmeasured factors lean toward Clinton -- especially the ground organizations.

[Persondem]

7. I'll take it. Plus it's outside the MoE. K&R

Now I just need to sleep some the next couple of nights.

[Dem2]

10. Hey, no worries, this poll DROPPED her chances by 1.1% on 538!

And all was well in the world.