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ffr

(22,669 posts)
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 12:59 PM Nov 2016

The ABC/Wapo poll still swinging wildly but this finding sticks: HRC up 54-38 among white women...

The ABC/Wapo poll still swinging wildly but this finding sticks: Clinton up 54-38 among white women with college degrees. Romney +6 in 2012 - Joy Reid


HRC with 10 point advantage with key demographic nationally...more women than men vote.



In 2020, we can look back at that last number and compare it to what will be her overwhelmingly positive perception, as has always been the case. People who she has represented (SoS & Senate) loved her more after than before, simply due to all the RW media nonsense spewed before she got elected. Thank goodness enough people know better to be the adults in the room and vote for Hillary Clinton.

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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
3. weird--they say that Trump is more honest, yet she is more moral
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:03 PM
Nov 2016

I, of course, think she is more honest and moral.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
4. They'll think so too within months of her setting policies. Hillary may not be exciting
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:08 PM
Nov 2016

to watch, like PBO, but she's a policy wonk that gets a lot done!

There's only so long that people will continue to accept RW talking points (lies) about her, when reality flies completely in the face of their false allegations.

We must vote in overwhelming numbers though.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
8. That tells me this skews towards very low info voters.
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:16 PM
Nov 2016

Cause, come on, more honest, that's not serious.

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
5. The biggest deception of the campaign
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:08 PM
Nov 2016

is that of Crooked Hillary. I cannot find a
single instance that proves she's been dishonest
or broken an actual law... yet this bullshit smear
seemed to stick. Yes fuck Donald Trump but I'm
more disheartened at all the idiots who believe him.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
6. Someone should do a poll to see if People think ABC news is honest
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:12 PM
Nov 2016

My other guess is that poll is very skewed. Mostly any red blooded American male could tell you they are much more selective who they answer a call from these days

radius777

(3,635 posts)
7. Trump, who is basically the mafia boss of a global crime syndicate,
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:13 PM
Nov 2016

a fascist who would burn the Constitution and the Bill of Rights - is more "trustworthy" than an individual who may be the most honest and qualified candidate in the modern era?

Fuck our right-wing law-enforcement agencies like the FBI (which has been an arm of the GOP since the '90s), as well as the complicit media, who knows most of these faux-scandals are fake, but promote them anyway to drive ratings/profits, which then become "the reality that everyone knows" (as described by Paul Krugman) and no longer questions.

"But Thomas Jefferson said it well, as he did so often, when he observed that people who expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be."

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
10. Can you please substantiate this claim...
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:24 PM
Nov 2016
"People who she has represented (SoS & Senate) loved her more after than before"


For one thing, she represented all of us as SoS. I don't see how you can make that claim given her national numbers. Also, I see no evidence that she left her Senate seat with a higher approval rating than when she held it.

Can you please provide some evidence to support your statement?


http://www.people-press.org/2015/05/19/hillary-clinton-approval-timeline/

^snip^

(Dec. 2006) Following her re-election, Clinton's favorability remained strong. Among Democrats, 55% viewed her as the leader of the party.

(May 2008) Clinton’s overall favorability dips below 50% again after long primary season that creates divisions even among many Democrats.


ffr

(22,669 posts)
12. Sure thing. Here you go. Need more???
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:33 PM
Nov 2016
Her polling numbers started going up during her time in the Senate and hit another peak of 58 percent in 2007 while a senator and just after announcing she would run for president, according to Gallup.

After another dip, it shot up to 65 percent in 2009 when she became secretary of state and stayed high for most of her tenure.
- PolitiFact

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