Why are the Trumpers claiming Michigan is in play?

[DCBob]

Latest poll had Hillary up by 5 and the average has her solidly ahead.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6008.html

I know there were a couple of closer ones but those were Peak Comey.

Seems they are grasping.

[Buzz Clik]

1. These are the people absolutely convinced that HRC is going to jail soon -- Any. Day. Now.

And you want this explained?

[CentralMass]

9. I've been getting some emails from former (retired) coworker with all of the scandals of the day.

This Breightbart crap was the latest. I also have relative that is pretty rabid with her Hillary hate on FB.
You can't argue with these people. On th ed encourage I think that Trump will end up being unacceptable to a amajority of voters.

[Garrett78]

3. They're desperate and using the fact that Clinton is going to Michigan.

But Clinton, of course, is going there to GOTV. Almost all Michigan voting takes place on election day.

[DCBob]

8. I didnt know that MI had no early voting.

I guess that might explain some of their 'logic' that they have some hope in MI. I suspect we win easy there.

[Foggyhill]

10. Well, that puke network CNN is pushing the Michigan is going red narrative non stop

so its no surprise they believe it...

[Uben]

4. Trump will win Michigan...

...if and when he gets more votes. Doesn't look likely, but he's losing in so many critical states that anything close right now wouold appear to them as "in play">

[Thrill]

6. Hillary isn't taking it for granted that's for sure

She's sending the President there.

[hatrack]

7. It's just part of the furniture for them . . .

The chopped-up furniture that they're shoveling into the fireplace in a desperate attempt to stave off the howling electoral darkness that awaits them.

They're already burned up everything else - money, rational thought, credibility, whatever shreds of self-respect they had left.

[onetexan]

11. GOP desperate ploy

Ms. Conway can smile right through her lies like her boss can, and seems that trait is inherent in their other surrogates as well. MI will stay blue unless hell freezes over.

[Democat]

12. Why do they claim Clinton has a body double?

Why do they all run away when someone yells "gun" even though they claim to love guns?

[SunSeeker]

13. Because Hillary is campaigning there.

MI is among a handful of states with almost no early voting, so the Clinton campaign is doing GOTV in the lead-up to Tuesday. Hillary will be in lots of states between now and Tuesday, concetrating on those with no early voting. The Trump campaign apparently does not understand the concept of smart GOTV.

[DCBob]

14. Yeah. That makes sense.

[SunSeeker]

28. Meanwhile, the Trump campaign is mindlessly flailing.

“Trump is basically going everywhere over those last few days and just cramming in every single state. As far as I’m concerned, the more time he spends in Minnesota and Nevada, the better,” Mook said. “In Michigan, almost all voting happens on Election Day, [like] Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and even Ohio. So our schedule is calibrated around that.”

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_581e7958e4b0e80b02ca835d

[Blue Idaho]

16. Michigan looks "getable" to the GOP

After they gutted the economy of the state they really think they can tap into the angry white ex-factory worker vote. They make this mistake every election. They did with Rmoney and now with Trump. We will see - but I think at this point it's a waste of dear old Donald's precious time.

[Garrett78]

20. The Washington Post had a recent article related to your point.

You and others may find this interesting: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/10/31/this-map-will-change-how-you-think-about-american-voters-especially-small-town-heartland-white-voters/

[Johnny2X2X]

18. Polls have narrowed

And by the number of ads from both sides I've seen here in the last week both sides are spending a ton of money here.

Both Hillary, Trump, and the President will be in MI today and tomorrow.

As much as it pains me to say it, this is a battleground state, if Hillary had it locked up she wouldn't be devoting so much time and resources here so close the the election. Noe I think it's a very long shot for Trump, but he is devoting as much here as he is in FL or OH it seems, it's his last campaign stop tomorrow night.

[Garrett78]

19. If Michigan had early voting, as all states should, I doubt she'd be going there.

The fact is it's a semi-battleground state with a high number of electoral votes, so the Clinton campaign is doing what they need to do to GOTV.

[radius777]

21. picking off MI is probably Trump's only chance

along with having to win all the other swing states, all of which is highly unlikely.

But MI is one of these states like OH that has a high percentage of white working class who get fooled by Trump's faux-populism. He has made a push to try to win it, and we have Comey's treasonous bullshit being pushed by the complicit media over the last week, leading to some tightening of the polls, leading to Hillary sending Obama (who is still very popular there, won by 17 points in 2008 and 9.5 points in 2012) there to GOTV and make sure it stays blue.

Hillary will likely win MI by 5+ points, which is more in line with the margin that Gore and Kerry won it by, so it is simply regressing back to the mean, and still a blue state, imo.

[Bucky]

32. Michael Moore says a vote for Trump is a giant middle finger to the system

I take Michael Moore seriously. This system has screwed a lot of people. Voting to F up the gov't is a way to hit back. Trump for all his clownishness plays on that resentment. There could be a lot of unpolled Trump sleeper votes out there. A 5% spread is nothing.

GOTV like your future depended on it.

[Wounded Bear]

22. The Trump campaign is just replaying the outro to The Boxer...

[budkin]

24. Because they are delusional

And Trump tells them it is

[LAS14]

25. I heard that Robbie Mook told a TV interviewer yesterday...

... that internal polls show Michigan tightening as well as other parts of the midwest. Sorry, not sure of the source.

[vadermike]

26. Another

Mitchell R leaning poll just came out hill plus 5 I think they are just shoring it up not a bad idea Gore and Kerry won high single digits Not surprised

[still_one]

27. Who knows. Michigan doesn't have early voting though

[upaloopa]

29. Obama saved the auto industry. Repubs would have let it fail.

[pstokely]

30. they also think Minnesota in play

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[Bucky]

31. MoE is 3. If the spread is only 5, then it's in play

Don't boo, GOTV

[Buckeye_Democrat]

35. Some of them are probably quoting Michael Moore.

Thanks, Mikey.

Perhaps you can coach a football team and "inspire" them to win by telling them they're going to lose.

[BlueProgressive]

36. They WISH it was.

That is all.


They are getting their asses handed to them here.

[sofa king]

37. Well, see...

... The poll probably has a margin of error of around 2.5%. So you take Trump's margin of 2.5% and give it to Trump. Then you take Hillary's margin of 2.5% and you give that to Trump.

Then you account for caging, voter intimidation, telling voters they can vote by text, roll purges, and Jebus, and Trump wins!

[radius777]

38. Maybe a head fake?

from a poster on PEC/Sam Wang's site:

http://election.princeton.edu/2016/11/06/the-nevada-bonus-is-back/#comment-107111
"I saw someone mention the Michigan/Robby Mook thing. I could, of course, be wrong, but my guess is that it’s a head fake. She’s led in Michigan the entire time. And, you’ll notice, Trump is going back there. This would possibly keep him away from Florida and Ohio where she’s still spending time. It’s possibly similar to 2008 when Obama pretended they were investing in Arizona at the end of the race, thereby forcing McCain to go back there. Just my guess."

[AmericanMan1958]

39. There is no early voting here

There are absentee voting!
Polls are so up and down, hard to know what to trust.
We are in full push mode.
No one is taking any chances.

[joeybee12]

40. playing devil's advocate Hillary had a huge lead in the primary

And Bernie won.

[DCBob]

41. Hail Mary.