2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMorning Jerk: "Every Republican I talk to wants a brokered convention".
Joe Scarborough just said this on his show this morning.
Many have been predicting this over the past few months. It scares the shit out of me since they could then bring in someone "reasonable" like Mitch Daniels, Jeb bush, etc.
Not sure of the mechanics since it seems Romney will most likely have the votes so not sure how they just ignore that and go brokered. But who knows especially with the recent resurgence of Gingrich.
If they do bring in someone new it would be a breath fo fresh air for them and basically wipe the negative slate clean. It would generate a huge media storm and a ton OF enthusiasm.
WE DO NOT WANT THIS.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)mazzarro
(3,450 posts)With a new person as candidate, to kick start the campaign and get into momentum won't be that easy. With regard to enthusiasm, it depends on who they chose and whether such a person is looked upon favorably out the rePIGlican circle.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Hopefully without the assassinations. Wild and wooly,
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)and Walker step in to save the country.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)There would be a fractured party, anger at the voters not counting. It would be great for the Democratic Party.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The longer we keep the pubs at eachother's throats, the better for the Democrats. If the grand poobahs of the party pick someone like Jeb (who is not very well liked amongst conservatives) and shove him down everyone's throats, the more resentment (not enthusiasm) there will be.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)but there won't be a brockered convention. Those are long gone. In the end it will be Mitt. There are many problems with brokered conventions too. Supporters of the candidates who actually fought in the primaries whether they are for Mitt, Gingrich or Paul will be upset if the nominee is someone who the party elders select.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)It would be played out on national, prime time TV and would only further enhance the self-inflicted disaster that this year will be for the rethugs. It just might make Chicago 1968 look like a love fest.
Follow that with a Democratic convention that would culminate in a prime time appearance of a President who is almost completely unflappable.
President Obama will win this election by wider margins than 2008 in both the popular and electoral vote.
PEACE!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)A brokered convention would be a disaster for the Republicans. It would show the disunity in the party and highlight just how disorganized the party really is.
There's a reason most Democrats were scared shitless at the thought of a brokered convention four years ago - it will not play well nationally.
This ain't the 1940s where there's minimal primaries, no 24 hour media and an entire year's worth of investment in candidates. If we make it through spring & summer and the Republicans, after a whole year of campaigning, still haven't been able to find a candidate, doing so, picking a person who hasn't campaigned, who hasn't been running for a year, will not play well.
Plus, what do you think those Romney/Gingrich/Santorum supporters are going to think if their guy leads in overall delegate count, has won most the primaries, but is passed over for someone like Daniels or Bush who hasn't lifted a finger in the last 24 months?
It won't sit well at all.
Moreover, picking a candidate who hasn't run nationally puts them at a significant DISADVANTAGE in every single state because they will not have the resources or organization on a state-level to rival Pres. Obama or any candidate who has been running a 50-state primary election. They would essentially have to start from scratch, which, in today's day and age, would be a disaster.
Finally, if it's a guy like Daniels, whose name carries absolutely zero weight nationally, they'll have only a few months to sell him to the American people. Being an unknown isn't an asset in a national campaign - especially only three or so months out from the '12 election.
So, no, this would be an epic disaster for the Republicans. It would play horribly nationally, divide the party even further and guarantee Obama a landslide in the electoral college.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)No one knows for sure how that will turn out. It could be a disaster for the GOPers but it could also resurrect them. Romney is a known entity.. very predictable, very boring, very beatable. I think if things contiue as they are and Romney is the nominee, Obama wins fairly easily. If someone like Mitch Daniels or Jeb Bush or Chris Christy comes out of a brokered convention all bets are off.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)My sentiments exactly
Not that I really care how badly they tear themselves up during their primary.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)is not settled.
It does not mean that a new candidate would be inserted. Could you imagine the backlash if the "elites" tried to void ALL votes and insert their own nominee - there's a reason why parties moved away from party elite nominations.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)This is disgusting. They are wasting a ton of money on debates and primaries but what they really want is the suspense of a brokered convention. I hope their party splits and that they have two candidates and can't elect either one.