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Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:08 AM Nov 2016

Our Best Case Scenario (My Optimistic Viewpoint for this Election).

First of all, I think we all know the worst case scenario, so let's skip that and hope for the best that we can get from this situation.

**NOTE: Obviously, anything that ANYONE puts up on this board is open to discussion (it's kind of a discussion board, after all), but this is just my offering for what I HOPE will happen given the circumstances; it's my version of the best we'll get out of the next four years IMHO.**

1) I actually don't see Trump starting a nuclear war. Nobody really wants that; even him. I see him continuing the ongoing wars, perhaps expanding them, and even possibly escalating our involvement in current conflicts (Syria in particular), but I have a feeling he'll have a more isolationist approach overall. So, there's that.

2) He's going to be so focused on his stupid vendettas, personal enrichment, and his own business that he's not going to get much accomplished. In fact, I think the mere fact that he won the Election caught him COMPLETELY off-guard. He (to my eyes) is coming across like the dog that finally caught the car, and isn't quite sure what the hell to do with it. So he might as well keep the focus where it's been for his entire life; his own damn self.

3) The argument that he will just pass all of the responsibility off to Pence and those around him and listen to their counsel (which, admittedly, from policy standpoints, would be DEMONSTRABLY worse than Trump just calling the shots himself) doesn't jive with who he is as a person. And he'll be a wild-card; he won't be reliably "conservative" considering his past. (This is admittedly my most pie-in-the-sky optimistic piece, since although he's a control freak, he's also allergic to any REAL work. But he sure as hell didn't listen to a single word of advice from his own campaign, and it got him this far; why start now?)

4) Up until about... oh... 16 months ago, Trump was Pro-Choice and NOT religious. I don't actually believe that his litmus test for a Supreme Court justice will be a pious, Anti-Choice zealot. And even if I'm wrong, I will pray each and every day for Ruth Bader Ginsberg's continued health (and I'm an atheist).

5) When he can't deliver on ANYTHING he promised ("GREAT GLORIOUS WALL!" already means, "Well, we'll kinda fix up the fence we already have a little bit and continue President Obama's deportation policy"; "BRINGING BACK COAL BIGLY!" already means, "Well, actually, natural gas is cheaper and better, so we'll probably scratch that"; "DRAIN THE SWAMP!" already means, "Well, I mean, I have to use insiders and lobbyists to fill MY cabinet"; and, finally, we ALL already knew that no manufacturing jobs were coming back to begin with), I can't imagine the backlash we'll see from the assholes that he whipped into a frenzy in this election. They'll turn the hate on him worse than they did with Hillary when they see how they were suckered in (well, this is assuming, of course, that they ever figure out that they were had, since, in addition to being deplorable, they're REEEEEAAALLY fucking stupid.)

So, our BEST case scenario is Bush the Lesser-Lite, but with more ineptitude and a LOT more infighting (with constant turnover in staff, disagreements with the REAL conservatives in the Legislative Branch turning nasty, and further fracturing of the Republican party). Oh, and another MASSIVE recession (inevitable with his tax policy).

I personally feel that this election will have REALLY woken the people that were just complacent and milquetoast about politics the FUCK UP in a way we haven't seen (and I'm hoping enough to actually get the Democrats to the polls in TWO years, not waiting for the next Presidential election).

It doesn't mean that this isn't going to SUCK, or that my heart doesn't break for my LGBT, immigrant, Muslim (or really any minority) brothers and sisters, and indeed for Hillary herself. There is already real suffering going on and it's KILLING me.

But I know that it DOES mean I'm going to remain vigilant. And I will stand and fight. And I'm ready to get to work (well, in a couple months... let me recover a bit first). And in four years, we'll wipe away the memory of this STUPID fucking mistake by America and come back stronger than ever. #optimisticeventhoughifyouknowmeI'musuallytheopposite

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Our Best Case Scenario (My Optimistic Viewpoint for this Election). (Original Post) Grown2Hate Nov 2016 OP
'1500 Days of Protests' fleabiscuit Nov 2016 #1
How do we twitter protest? mainstreetonce Nov 2016 #2
I so disagree vlyons Nov 2016 #3
That's much closer to our WORST case scenario (which, unfortunately, is incredibly Grown2Hate Nov 2016 #4
Agree about the Supreme Court pbmus Nov 2016 #5
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those things happened. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #6
"It will be a goatfuck of unprecedented magnitude." This line made my day. Grown2Hate Nov 2016 #8
tRump is going to have to get used to hearing Wolf Frankula Nov 2016 #7
"No, you can't appoint Omirosa to the Supreme Court." "No, you can't have Putin over for a Grown2Hate Nov 2016 #9

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. I so disagree
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:20 AM
Nov 2016

While I agree that Trump is more interested in his business empire, he will use the power of the Fed gov to enrich himself. But what scares me is that Trump is now the alt-right's rubber stamp. Congress is already getting lined up to pass legislation for the wall, for rounding up undocumented people, privatizing medicare and SSI to be signed Trump very very fast.

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
4. That's much closer to our WORST case scenario (which, unfortunately, is incredibly
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:29 AM
Nov 2016

plausible). I was laying out a road map for our best case scenario (not necessarily what I THINK will happen, but the best I feel that I can hope for give the circumstances).

The Alt-Right (read: White Supremacist) piece is the scariest part. But I personally don't believe that the MAJORITY of his supporters support that. I still think that they are a non-negligible part of his coalition of voters and deplorable as shit, but mostly they're just a LOT of morons that fell for his "bringing all the jobs back" bullshit. Along with all of the real conservatives that just said, "Fuck it, we need to get the Supreme Court".

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
5. Agree about the Supreme Court
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:38 AM
Nov 2016

I have already told one of the angry white guys that voted for him, that I wanted to see him protesting in the streets when he doesn't deliver on jobs. He said he'd see me in the street...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,836 posts)
6. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those things happened.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:45 AM
Nov 2016

Trump is a raging narcissist, and once he realizes that there's actually work involved in being the president and he won't get to make speeches to adoring crowds every day, he'll try to give the day-to-day grunt work to his staff so he can hang out in his faux-Versailles baroque whorehouse of an apartment in New York and concentrate on doing real estate deals (conflicts of interest be damned).

The problem, though, is that apparently he has no staff and no idea how to hire one. He didn't realize that - unlike when you take over a business - the incoming administration has to replace everybody in the West Wing. Even when they get a staff, they'll be amateurs who kissed Trump's ass in the hope of a White House job, and nobody will have any idea what to do. They'll all be running around like headless chickens, pissed off at each other, forming factions and fighting constantly. People will quit and get fired and the actual work of governance won't get done at all. Maybe that's a good thing in some ways, because if they can't get anything done they can't fuck anything up.

It will be a goatfuck of unprecedented magnitude.

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
8. "It will be a goatfuck of unprecedented magnitude." This line made my day.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:57 AM
Nov 2016

I seriously hope your assessment is dead-on. The more NOTHING they get accomplished, the better.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
7. tRump is going to have to get used to hearing
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:49 AM
Nov 2016

the word "NO". No you can't. No we can't. No we won't. He's not used to hearing that. And he will realize that the Presidency is LOT of work, not just boozing at state dinners, playing golf and gabbing before adoring crowds.

I don't predict it, but it wouldn't surprise me if he just said 'This is no fun' and quit.

Wolf

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
9. "No, you can't appoint Omirosa to the Supreme Court." "No, you can't have Putin over for a
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:06 AM
Nov 2016

sleepover in the Lincoln Bedroom." "No, you can't paint the White House gold." "No, you can't rename Texas 'Trumpsylvania'." "No, you still can't fuck your daughter Ivanka." Yeah, he's in for a lot of disappointment.

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