Everyone here wants the party to have a strong and STRENGTHENED anti-bigotry position.

[Ken Burch]

Raising questions about bad electoral strategy is NOT the same thing as wanting people to shut up hate.

Keep fighting hate...fight it MORE...

But fight the things that help the haters spread hate, too.

[still_one]

1. 47% of eligible voters didn't bother to vote. The people who voted for Jill Stein voted

for bigotry and hate.

In Michigan, trump won by .3%

1.1% voted for Jill Stein.

Other borderline states have similar stats.

Hillary won the popular vote by at least two million, and they are still counting, but it was the third party candidates, that did affect the result of the election.

Every person who voted for the third party candidate voted for bigotry and hate, because they knew the election results would only choose either Hillary or trump

What was at stake was never more clear. If nothing else, they knew the SC was at stake.

I will never forget or forgive those who voted third party, or the 47% who didn't even bother to vote.

[LostOne4Ever]

2. I am LIVID with the DNC for their role in getting Hillary the nomination

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]But I am also just as FURIOUS at the third party voters who allowed this to happen.

What has been done to the Supreme Court will take DECADES to undo.

Seriously,

FUCK Jill STEIN and her voters
FUCK THE SO CALLED "BERNIE OR BUSTERS"
FUCK GARY JOHNSON and his voters
FUCK TRUMP and his deplorables!
FUCK COMEY AND THE RWers IN THE FBI
FUCK REPUBLICANS
FUCK TRUMP!!!
and FUCK everyone who helped bring this about!!!

People were depending on a left leaning supreme court, and now all that is all rubble.[/font]

[still_one]

6. That is another false narrative that the DNC got Hillary the nomination. Hillary got

the nomination because more people voted for her than the other candidates.

However, I am not going to argue the point

[Ken Burch]

4. I spent a lot of the fall, when I wasn't canvassing, phonebanking and manning the desk

at the local Dem headquarters pleading with people on Facebook to vote Hillary on anti-fascist grounds. A LOT of Sanders supporters spent a lot of time doing similar things.

What matters now is turning non-voters and third-party voters into Dem presidential voters in 2016. This election proved that we can never ever win voters over by just demanding their votes.

[boston bean]

5. I am not sure what you can do with voters who vote for such a man.

They have no real guiding principle. And the libs who voted for him or someone else did it out of spite.

Fuck them!!

[JI7]

7. you can't do anything about them

i think the only change would have been to put more GOTV into the blue midwest states to increase turnout in blue areas. the dems there probably felt they were safe also .

[still_one]

8. I am not sure what you can do, but this kind of dialog is useful I believe

I also did my share of call banking, and other volunteer work, trying to impress upon them what was at stake. The SC, student loans, etc.

[LostOne4Ever]

3. KICK AND REC! Nt