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My understanding is, there was a 14 percent shift in Wis. voters in the last week of the election (Original Post) Ellipsis Nov 2016 OP
I was out canvassing a lot after the 1st letter from Comey. Yes, it made a differenc riversedge Nov 2016 #1
" Weiner" "sex" and 15 year old... it was the perfect storm email. Ellipsis Nov 2016 #4
Yes, it's a measure of how a man's bad behavior hurts a woman's reputation. SharonAnn Nov 2016 #8
echoes of the "cleanis" .. final straw. Ellipsis Nov 2016 #12
As well it should. LisaM Nov 2016 #2
Jimmy "the flake" Comey. Establishment mob soldier. oasis Nov 2016 #3
Couldn't have been Hillary's choice of not campaigning there. B Calm Nov 2016 #5
Maybe a part of the reason but no not the main reason I don't believe...it wasn't a blowout TrekLuver Nov 2016 #7
She lost wisco. by 1 percent. Ellipsis Nov 2016 #10
If she hadn't taken it for granted, they'd have made it. KittyWampus Nov 2016 #20
Speculation... for starters. You could be right. Ellipsis Nov 2016 #22
And then you had this ASSHOLE criss-crossing the country saying that it's reopened and they TrekLuver Nov 2016 #6
Yet some continue to find fault with Hillary as if she was intentionally negligent. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #9
Also the Republican Fake news about the emails was all over Facebook womanofthehills Nov 2016 #11
I'd have to agree... Ellipsis Nov 2016 #13
Are we to assume that everything was above board? kentuck Nov 2016 #14
I think Feingold lost by 4 percent. Ellipsis Nov 2016 #15
Exaclty. Coyotl Nov 2016 #21
Wisconsin and maybe Michigan I can see. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #16
Michigan and Wisconsin would be enough. Ellipsis Nov 2016 #17
Trump is going to finish with 306 EVs. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #19
I checked before I posted it had him at 290 Ellipsis Nov 2016 #23
This was Comey's election mcar Nov 2016 #18
I heard it on the radio first... I thought the moment I heard it .. we are fucked Ellipsis Nov 2016 #24

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
1. I was out canvassing a lot after the 1st letter from Comey. Yes, it made a differenc
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:24 PM
Nov 2016

A lot of doubt--folks just wondering. Most had thought the emails were dead-then all of sudden--the FBI is involved--not just Republicans in Congress. Many just shook their heads and said something like--I just don't know anymore.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
8. Yes, it's a measure of how a man's bad behavior hurts a woman's reputation.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:31 PM
Nov 2016

But his bad behavior doesn't necessarily hurt his (Trump).

LisaM

(27,808 posts)
2. As well it should.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:26 PM
Nov 2016

There was a lot of interference in this election - and since the actual number of votes that could have been shifted to give Hillary the EC is under 100,000, I'm going to remain angry, depressed, and upset about this for a long time.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
10. She lost wisco. by 1 percent.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:32 PM
Nov 2016

329,000 couldn't vote due to voter ID.


She was up by 6 to 8 in the poll....


What was done was done.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
6. And then you had this ASSHOLE criss-crossing the country saying that it's reopened and they
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:29 PM
Nov 2016

are righting a wrong blah blah blah

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
11. Also the Republican Fake news about the emails was all over Facebook
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:33 PM
Nov 2016

Facebook Fake News - new emails confirm that Hillary started ISIS.

So the Republicans used this as a springboard to put out fake news about what was in the emails.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
15. I think Feingold lost by 4 percent.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:49 PM
Nov 2016

Oddly... in passed years most county voted came rather quickly. This year small counties had more precincts open later the normal. There was a better turn out in the rural areas... I'm not up to date on how on how tabulation is done in the counties anymore. It could be possible given the late reporting. But that is pure, ....pure speculation. You could eek out a point or two. That's still shifting at minimum 30,000. Votes.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
21. Exaclty.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:01 PM
Nov 2016

Wisconsin and PA are very suspicious for their wide margin of error in the exit polls, way beyond a reasonable amount. Will be interesting once official results are published and numbers crunched.



Something Stinks When Exit Polls and Official Counts Don't Match

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. Wisconsin and maybe Michigan I can see.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 08:20 PM
Nov 2016

But Pennsylvania wasn't all that close--68,000 votes.

What happened is that we bottomed out in Congressional districts that vote Republican for house races, getting blown out 70-30 instead of 55-45 etc.

But this was the culmination of the long-term erosion in our vote in much of the country. We really need to get back in and scrap for every county, every state legislature seat in the country. Can't just sit back and hope to run up the score in the cities across the Midwest.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
17. Michigan and Wisconsin would be enough.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 08:39 PM
Nov 2016

...and there's is no information I'm aware of that is puts that concept in play.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. Trump is going to finish with 306 EVs.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 08:43 PM
Nov 2016

Wisconsin and Michigan have 27 combined.

Trump needed to win only 1/3 of those states.

We need to win all three in 2020.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
24. I heard it on the radio first... I thought the moment I heard it .. we are fucked
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:15 PM
Nov 2016

Even if there was nothing to it... We were still fucked.

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