2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary should hold town halls using her own money and go to small backwoods areas around the US
and say Let me hear from you. Let the people explain to her face why they did not vote for her. Then she could explain after the fact what she was really about. It would help the Democratic Party greatly. It will start the rebuilding process from the ground up.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)I like her a lot. A lot, a lot.
But honestly she should retire and enjoy her family.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)You can't fix stupid people. They rewarded their economic executioners. Screw them because they screwed the rest of us. The economy would have been better had Obama's and Democratic initiatives had not been completely blocked for 8 years. The GOP won't fund to build infrastructure but now they will give $4 trillion to billionaires and DOD.
Now they want to obliterate the safety net and take away health care for millions of people. Under them less than 50% of the country will have health insurance. And those that do will have under covered.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Agreed. As you said, if they want to live hand to mouth with little to no health insurance, God Bless 'em. I hate that those of us who actually understand who and what their president tRump is, will be forced to suffer right along with them.
Broken record time again: Their president, P.T. tRump, said that a $7.25 Federal Minimum wage was too high, then said maybe we should raise it (When Bernie/Hillary spoke then agreed upon a $15.00 Federal Minimum wage), then he said maybe we don't need a Federal Minimum wage period. Now, unless I missed something, what wage WILL these Einstein's be willing to work FOR? $2.00, $3.00, $5.00 per hour? Working for $5.00 per hour doesn't sound like a "fantastic" job to me. Do they even get that this is NOT a living wage at ALL? All I can say is good luck with that "fantastic" job in your soon-to-be if it already isn't a right-to-work state (Which is where Wisconsin is moving thanks to the worst Governor in the world Scott Walker), where you won't have any health insurance and as you rightfully say if they do they and their families will be woefully under-insured with hideous crappy health care options.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)LonePirate
(13,417 posts)Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Calling people "stupid", writing them off and then being bewildered as to why the Dems are having their asses handed to them in formerly solid blue states like WV and WI.
Better hope this recount does turn things around because if not the D's are going to have a giant Pterodactyl egg on their face.
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)found this sad but insightful essay to be a validation of what you are saying. The ignorance is willful and too many in rural areas, who have been lobotomized by fundamentalist religion, are proud of it. http://forsetti.tumblr.com/post/153181757500/on-rural-america-understanding-isnt-the-problem
And if Hillary does ANYTHING, she should certainly be reimbursed for it - at the very least. She has devoted her life to people and worked her heart out to reach people in this campaign. Too many of them - some on DU apparently - seem to have been blatantly ungrateful for her efforts.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)would she want to put herself through that? What would it do, other than hurt her more?
Sorry, but no...just...no.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)No way.
Their heads are filled with so much crap there's no room for anything else.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)I expect her to retire from public life and continue her work with the foundation and some speaking engagements. I doubt very much that she will subject herself to another presidential campaign. She got more than enough punishment from this one, and it still continues. Don't expect to hear much from her.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)If Sanders is already out there doing that he is very wise.
Hillary should do it too. But remember it is not about her running for office again. It has to be about her seeking answers.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)but she's not selling books at the moment, and Sanders is.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)It is nothing like having someone with power meet you on your level. Remember in the long game this will help the Democratic Party.
It is called better public relations.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)BainsBane
(53,031 posts)What exactly is he doing? I haven't heard about this.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)Donkees
(31,392 posts)organizing grassroots support.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)in voter registration and voter turn out as "machine politics" during the primary. Now it's okay?
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)BainsBane
(53,031 posts)There isn't much listening happening.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)discount all the 'naysayers' and their reasons for so long, why would that change now?
It is easier to just declare "foul!" and keep your fingers crossed that it is so.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)She isn't going to run for office again, certainly not the presidency. It's not up to her to rebuild the party. That's for the rest of us.
It's time to leave Hillary in peace.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And enjoy her life.
JI7
(89,248 posts)Undocumented immigrants and other people they want to ban and send to the back of the bus.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)JI7
(89,248 posts)demmiblue
(36,845 posts)mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)We do need to make more attempts than we have in the past to get our message to the folks in the rural areas to at least neutralize the propaganda from the right. As we just found out, we can't rely on the urban areas alone to pull us through elections.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)That's exactly how she started her campaign... by listening to the people. At the time all I heard was criticism about not having huge rallies.
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)If he wants to rebuild the party in the Midwest, going on a listening and conversation tour to small towns across America would do immense good.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Possible candidates, not her
Raastan
(266 posts)She. did. Not. Lose.
Record turnout in most states, Crosscheck and other voter suppression acts, FBI/KGB interference, etc.
It is my belief that any other discussion is giving in to a false MSM narrative.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)So in the sense that Trump will be taking the oath of office in January and she won't, she did lose.
Raastan
(266 posts)Concessions are not binding, she won the popular vote, and recounts are underway. No one has taken any oaths yet...
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And a recount is only underway in one state whose EVs are not enough to change anything.
Raastan
(266 posts)Obviously the popular vote does not win elections, but it is not yet obvious that Rumpus will take the oath of office.
I do believe that they are looking into more states than just Wisconsin.
We are still in strange territory and no one knows what will happen
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)That said, other younger and upcoming dems without so much baggage should do exactly that. We face one of the most important mid-terms of our lifetimes in two years. Remember if we don't right the ship in two years, those in power will be in charge of redrawing district lines.
oasis
(49,379 posts)That's a biblical quote btw.
MFM008
(19,806 posts)Obviously people LIED to her face or pollsters.
LIES.
Raine
(30,540 posts)spend time with her grandkids, live the rest of her life out of the public eye.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...just ask the banks...
I couldn't resist. This probably would have been good advice during the general but you would have been shut down as a "concern troll" if you brought it up.