2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew MoveOn Petition: DEMAND A RECOUNT IN WI, MI, PA, AZ, NC and FL
DEMAND A RECOUNT IN WI, MI, PA, AZ, NC and FL
Petition by Jennifer Parsons
To be delivered to THe Federal Election Commission, The United States House of Representatives, The United States Senate, and President Barack Obama
Donald Trump LOST this election.. He only won because of about 100,000 votes in a couple of swing states. Ask yourself: Could Voter Fraud, Suppression and Russian Hacking have made the difference? Let's demand further investigation of Vote handling and Russian interference and demand a recount in these pivotal swing states!
http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/demand-a-recount-in-wi?mailing_id=36071&source=s.icn.em.cr&r_by=8937263
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)in PA?
Statistical
(19,264 posts)"Ah yup machine 87 still stays 1158 votes for Trump just like it did last time"
The idea of a recount on a 100% paperless voting system is sort of an oxymoron. If there is cheating it is in the machine and thus the recount is simply recounting the cheated number.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)they don't go anywhere. Leave it to MoveOn to jump in at the last minute. When we had the recall in WI, they waited until the last week to help. And sad to day, Obama did not help us, either.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)Their participation in their democracy is important, and petitions are a non-violent statement against perceived unfairness.
The recall election did not suggest an easy victory for Barrett. It would have been politically questionable at best for Obama to become publicly involved. It might even have increased Walker's percentages among those of his supporters in the GOP who feel that any government intervention is a trespass.
red dog 1
(27,913 posts)"Recall Election Fraud In Wisconsin? You Betcha!"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101630961
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)Democrats in Wisconsin, but it was what it was.
Milwaukee County wasn't exactly robot in its voter turn-out this year either. : (
Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)And good luck to them on FL - they've already certified their returns. Done deal there.
FBaggins
(26,783 posts)Just the opposite in fact.
triron
(22,030 posts)oasis
(49,480 posts)after all, so, raise a giant review of voting results.
bdamomma
(63,960 posts)Hekate
(91,005 posts)Will sign, but urgently need info before hoping....
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Arizona - no candidate or voter initiated recounts, but voters can contest the election results, which could result in a ballot inspection and possibly a recount. Close vote margin triggers automatic recount.
Florida - no candidate or voter initiated recounts. Automatic recount if margin is .5% or less. And Florida's vote is already certified.
North Carolina - candidate initiated recount if margin is .5% or less or 1% or less, depending on race. Neither Stein nor Clinton would qualify for a recount.
Hekate
(91,005 posts)Thanks
LisaL
(44,982 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)If you are going to demand a recall for close states, lets recount all the close states.
Not that I think it will happen anyway.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)And yet, there's that sound...
mythology
(9,527 posts)Without any sort of evidence this is just pointless sore loser nonsense.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)You'll break the delicate bubble.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)anamandujano
(7,004 posts)The only ones in denial are those greasing the path for Trump to get away with it. All the usual suspects are here tag teaming as they have in other threads.
JimBeard
(293 posts)It has to be the Silicon Valley wing of the party protesting.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)This is getting ridiculous.
red dog 1
(27,913 posts)K&R
Lithos
(26,404 posts)However, the shit will hit the fire if even *one* of them does flip.
L-
brooklynite
(94,950 posts)None of those entities have the authority to call for a recount at the State level, but it'll sure make some people feel like they've "done" something.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)with calling the DoJ and leaving a message.
ffr
(22,677 posts)Signed by every member of our family.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)This is stupid.
Trump won Arizona by 4 points! How the hell are you going to turn that around?
I know its hard for some to understand why Hillary didn't win all 50 states. As she stated, she thought she should be 50 points ahead...
The party thinking that way is the reason they lost. Too overconfident. Too much faith in suspect polling. Too elitist. And too lazy to do the work to win in the places she needed to win.
Corey_Baker08
(2,157 posts)I Live Near The Usual Democratic Stronghold Of Dayton,Ohio In Montgomery County, Ohio. In Fact A Democratic Presidential Candidate Hasnt Lost Here Since 1960...Well Someway Trump Managed To Win Montgomery County...Weird But Then Our Local News Reports This...
DAYTON, OH (WDTN) The polling location manager of a Dayton polling place was removed from the polling location Tuesday for not following official protocol, said Jan Kelley, Director of the Board of Elections.
Stephen Marcum was ordered to disconnect two electronic books. The disconnect rebooting process to make the machines go faster almost like a reset, Kelly said.
Marcum refused to follow that order, Kelly said. The Board of Elections called the Montgomery County Sheriffs Office to have Marcum removed from Thurgood Marshall.
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2 NEWS was there when Marcum was removed by deputies.
Officials have had issues with Marcum in the past but would not elaborate further. say there should be no impact to voters.
When asked about the security of the votes, or confidence in the vote count, Kelly said the incident would have no direct impact on voters.
HOW F'N IRONIC?
barbtries
(28,818 posts)dread sense of helplessness nonetheless.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,601 posts)Something is wrong with the electronic voting machines........
Let's find out what it is..........
Trust but verify!