There Needs To Be An Investigation Into Election Fraud In Ohio...

[Corey_Baker08]

I Live Near The Usual Democratic Stronghold Of Dayton,Ohio In Montgomery County, Ohio. In Fact A Democratic Presidential Candidate Hasnt Lost Here Since 1960...Well Someway Trump Managed To Win Montgomery County...Weird But Then Our Local News Reports This...


DAYTON, OH (WDTN) – The polling location manager of a Dayton polling place was removed from the polling location Tuesday for not following official protocol, said Jan Kelley, Director of the Board of Elections.

Stephen Marcum was ordered to disconnect two electronic “books.” The disconnect rebooting process to make the machines go faster — almost like a reset, Kelly said.

Marcum refused to follow that order, Kelly said. The Board of Elections called the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office to have Marcum removed from Thurgood Marshall.

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2 NEWS was there when Marcum was removed by deputies.

Officials have had issues with Marcum in the past but would not elaborate further. say there should be no impact to voters.

When asked about the security of the votes, or confidence in the vote count, Kelly said the incident would have no direct impact on voters.

HOW F'N IRONIC?

[ucrdem]

1. Whoa.

[meow2u3]

2. Link? nt

[Ruth Bonner]

6. Link

http://wdtn.com/2016/11/08/manager-of-dayton-polling-place-removed-for-violation/

[pbmus]

3. When the Trumpster says anything publicly about this recount

I feel like he knows more...

[MFM008]

29. Yes. The maggot doth protest to much.

.........

[7wo7rees]

4. Yeah, since like 2000, and then 2004 and so on and so forth.nt

[Coyotl]

27. From the first punch card ballot to the last one.

Ohio punch card voting was a dream design for fraud. Maybe that is why the system was created.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

5. And why exactly does that indicate fraud? n/t

[rzemanfl]

7. If I was a Cubs fan since 1960 and started wearing

an Indians hat last month, wouldn't you think that was odd? (Not to mention insensitive to Native Americans)

[SickOfTheOnePct]

9. Comparing baseball to an election is pretty weak

But other than that, people do change their voting habits.

How exactly do you believe removing one troublemaking election official from one precinct would turn a whole county?

[rzemanfl]

10. It raises suspicions. Just like absurd 85% voter turnouts in some Florida counties do.

You can go ahead and believe whatever they tell you though.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

14. Out of 67 counties in Florida

8 of them had turnouts of 80% or above, one at 86%. Of those 8 counties, 6 of them had 80% or above turnout in 2012.

High voter turnout should be something we strive for, not complain about.

[rzemanfl]

19. I can't seem to find that info, but I will take your word.

How many of them went from Obama to Trump? If you have that info.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

21. I'll get you the links to the turnout data

I haven't looked at the actual voting data yet, but I'll try to find those links as well.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

23. I need to correct something

I said 8 were 80% or above and 6 of those had been 80% or above in 2012.

It was actually 6 counties this year, and 4 in 2012.

Sorry about the bad data.

Here are the links:

2012: https://results.elections.myflorida.com/Index.asp?ElectionDate=11/6/2012&DATAMODE=

2016: http://enight.elections.myflorida.com/CountyReportingStatus/

Looking for the historical voting data from 2012 now.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

24. Sorry had to look up the data

The 2012 data is archived - I downloaded it to a spreadsheet and did a quick turn on the numbers, so if you check and I'm off, it's not intentional. The 2016 data is from the 2016 link below - you just have to click on each county to go to their site and get the data.
Looks like one of the six (from my calculations for 2012) flipped from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016.

Counties and associated data:

Baker 2012 2016

Turnout 81.8% 84%
Obama 20.33%
Romney 78.95%
Clinton 16.62%
Trump 81.02%

Collier 2012 2016

Turnout 83.3% 86%
Obama 34.67%
Romney 64.73%
Clinton 35.41%
Trump 61.11%

Franklin 2012 2016

Turnout 77.2% 84%
Obama 33.7%
Romney 65.22%
Clinton 28.74%
Trump 68.12%

Jefferson 2012 2016

Turnout 82.4% 81%
Obama 50.53%
Romney 48.77%
Clinton 51.14%
Trump 46.02%

St. John's 2012 2016

Turnout 75.5% 80%
Obama 30.65%
Romney 68.39%
Clinton 31.28%
Trump 64.34%

Sumter 2012 2016

Turnout 82.2% 84%
Obama 32.28%
Romney 67.21%
Clinton 29.09%
Trump 67.77%


Link for 2012 data:https://results.elections.myflorida.com/Index.asp?ElectionDate=11/6/2012&DATAMODE=
If you select "2012 General Election", "Federal Offices" from the drop down on the left, then click "Download Results", it takes you to a page where you can download all of the data to a file.

Link for 2016 data: http://enight.elections.myflorida.com/CountyReportingStatus/

[rzemanfl]

25. Thank you for all the information you compiled while this old man

slept. I will have to look at a map to see if this proves the adage "The further north you go in Florida, the further south you get."

[MFM008]

30. See 2004

Blackwell locking up the machines in one Ohio precinct.
Remember??
Bush never was actually elected.

[Bear Creek]

8. Rove

Remember the melt down he was for sure mitt won ohio

[Travis_0004]

11. How does removing one person from a precinct help donald win the state by 450,000 votes.

[Travis_0004]

13. Everywhere I have seen is 2.7 millon to 2.3 million

[rzemanfl]

15. Deleted my post. Bad info, sorry.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

17. Happens to us all! n/t

[FBaggins]

16. rzemanfl was thinking of PA

Wrong state.

[rzemanfl]

18. Could be I read the wrong columns. n/t

[FBaggins]

22. Nothing wrong with that.

No offense intended

[FBaggins]

20. Some corrections to your claims

In Fact A Democratic Presidential Candidate Hasnt Lost Here Since 1960

That's untrue. Bush (the elder) won it in 1988, which almost certainly means that Reagan won it in both 80&84.

Additionally, both the 2000 and 2004 elections were both very close in the county (about a 2% gap).

Obama won the county by about 4.5% in 2012... and Clinton lost it by less than 3/4%. That's hardly unlikely given the shift in the rest of the state. In fact, it's smaller than the state overall.

[CincyDem]

26. With all due respect...no surprise to me that Dayton area "flipped"

I don't live in Dayton but I drive through there a lot. Over the past 10-15 years, it's started to feel like a ghost town. I don't have any data on the loss of businesses but the feel of the city is that every week there's a new office closed down and every month there's a new building emptied. As I said, I'm sure there are numbers but Dayton is a long way from the days of NCR and Mead Paper, to name just a couple former companies.

Montgomery County didn't flip (by 3100 votes) because of fraud. It flipped because James Carville's words have been drowned out in the Dem party - It's the Economy Stupid.

That's not to say this even wasn't weird and there may have been something fraudulent going on - but whatever it was, it wasn't material to the 440k vote loss.

[Achilleaze]

28. K and R

I fart in the general direction of the Russian-Republican anti-American, anti-democracy cabal, and their Chickenhawk Champion, Comrade Casino (R).