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By Editorial Board, Published: December 18
FORMER SENATOR Chuck Hagel, whom President Obama is reportedly considering for defense secretary, is a Republican who would offer a veneer of bipartisanship to the national security team. He would not, however, move it toward the center, which is the usual role of such opposite-party nominees. On the contrary: Mr. Hagels stated positions on critical issues, ranging from defense spending to Iran, fall well to the left of those pursued by Mr. Obama during his first term and place him near the fringe of the Senate that would be asked to confirm him.
The current secretary, Leon Panetta, has said the defense sequester cuts that Congress mandated to take effect Jan. 1 would have dire consequences for U.S. security. Mr. Hagel took a very different position when asked about Mr. Panettas comment during a September 2011 interview with the Financial Times. The Defense Department, I think in many ways, has been bloated, he responded. So I think the Pentagon needs to be pared down.
While both Republicans and Democrats accept that further cuts in defense may be inevitable, few have suggested that a reduction on the scale of the sequester is responsible. In congressional testimony delivered around the same time as Mr. Hagels interview, members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said the sequester would lead to a severe and irreversible impact on the Navys future, a Marine Corps thats below the end strength to support even one major contingency and an unacceptable level of strategic and operational risk for the Army.
Mr. Hagel was similarly isolated in his views about Iran during his time in the Senate. He repeatedly voted against sanctions, opposing even those aimed at the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, which at the time was orchestrating devastating bomb attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq. Mr. Hagel argued that direct negotiations, rather than sanctions, were the best means to alter Irans behavior. The Obama administration offered diplomacy but has turned to tough sanctions as the only way to compel Iran to negotiate seriously.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/chuck-hagel-is-not-right-for-defense-secretary/2012/12/18/07e03e20-493c-11e2-ad54-580638ede391_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines
still_one
(92,219 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)this is the best endorsement i ever read.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I'm a great deal more hawkish than both the President and Hagel, (I'm a Wilsonian, I believe that superpowers have a moral obligation to intervene to confront genocide, war-crimes and oppression.) but even I concede that we need to tackle our bloated defense budget and that diplomacy needs to be the first course of action; resorting to war should only occur when/if diplomacy fails, sending Americans off to die on foreign soil is a decision which should never be made lightly or avoidably. This is something that Chuck Hagel gets and the neocons in both parties do not.
Mass
(27,315 posts)When was the Washington Post right on foreign policy issues.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)They are not free agents who do whatever they want or believe. They don't act independently. This is true from Secretary of State down to Sec'y of Health and Human Services.
Of course, Hegel's "left of center" views on these subjects can influence the President, but ultimately the president him- or herself is the one who makes ultimate decisions on policy. This is why Congress has traditionally given the president the freedom to chose their cabinet members, and only in the rarest of instances is there opposition. Opposition is of course becoming more frequent and routine, simply as political theater. It's why all the bluster and to do about a potential Secretary of State nomination was all bullshit: whether Susan Rice or John Kerry or someone else, all were going to carry out the policies that President Obama approves.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)but also cutting the ground out from under Obama apologists re: Holder, Geithner et al.
Cha
(297,322 posts)I Support him. I have his back and he has mine.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)It looks like Biden will get some backup in the non neo-con, less hawkish Kerry and Hagel. You might remember that in early 2008, these three Senators were all in Afghanistan together and their helicopter was grounded by unexpected snow. From many accounts, the outcome was that the three spoke - noted the improvement in relations after the US helped with aid after an earthquake in Pakistan and tried to craft policy where they were helping the people -reaching out to them, as much as to the leaders. The result was what became Kerry/lugar/Berman. (Hillary Clinton has articulated this well as "soft power" )
frazzled
(18,402 posts)I don't believe anyone mentioned with respect to a new cabinet position has been particularly more "hawkish" than Kerry or Clinton have been in recent years. And if you are referring to Ms. Rice, you are truly and sorely mistaken on that point.
Both of the former were quite hawkish with respect to recent wars. But I'm not going through that again. The usual suspects will say I've been waterboarded by Dick Cheney to say that ... I'm both too busy with work and too preoccupied with other things to bother arguing with them again. And I'm not in the mood for laughing these days.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)The Secretary of Defense has vast authority both statutory and non-statutory. Yes he serves at the pleasure of the President but the President can't micromanage the Pentagon and run the country at the same time. Some Presidents have tried via the NSC and its turned into a bureaucratic nightmare.
Sure, sometimes the President will disagree with the SecDef and obviously the President is the boss and his word is final. But generally he appoints someone who agrees with him so that his views will be carried out, without him having to do it himself.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)I am strongly inclined against a Democratic President appointing any Republican to any national security position, but this editorial gives me reason to re-consider in this particular instance....
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)BTW This sounds more like a FAUX news editorial.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)than why in heaven's name did the Republicans agree to hold themselves accountable by passing the BCA- and then making damned sure that the "Super Committee" didn't come up with a better plan by continuing to be intransigent over a balanced approach?
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Or at least deflect the blame onto the Democratic Party instead of themselves. Neither approach worked, because the Democrats expected the GOP to deal disingenuously, and planned for it.
I think we're going to have to get used to massive editorial pushes backed by defense contractors, because collectively they take in more money than just about any other lobby.
But the truth of the matter is that until recently the US spent more on defense than the rest of the world combined, and the reduction of spending agreed to by the GOP is only around ten percent per year. The defense lobby will still be the largest and richest lobby ten years from now after a trillion dollars in cuts.
I don't know what the Washington Post is so damned worried about. Within the first year of Jeb Bush's stolen Presidency, he'll call up his Saudi Arabian buddies, drop another false-flag attack on Americans, and we'll have another war on our hands virtually overnight.
Their greed is overcoming their patience, which is pretty much the only way they can lose this fight in the long run. So keep pooping out these screeds, WaPo! It is helping to achieve the exact opposite result.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)I believe that they had already passed a new budget that restored the cuts. I honestly believe that they believed that they would sweep the House, Senate, and WH in November and be able to do everything that they wanted to do with a President Romney ready and willing to sign everything they sent him into law. They don't really seem to have a "Plan B" however.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)They won't be so candid about it, because officially the GOP still tows the Neocon line. But if you could get them to be honest, I think many would say that they made a mistake giving the Bush Administration a blank check to do whatever it wanted after 9/11.
So, put another way, I think they're fine with some defense cuts. Just as long as they can say it was Obama who did it, and not them.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)OK. Maybe the right, er, left Republican would be good for Defense.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Just look who is lining up against him - mostly neocons.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)Pisces
(5,599 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)There is no way he is to the LEFT of the majority of the current Senate. I think the WP is angry that Obama is not picking their favorites -- and specifically he is avoiding NEO-CONS favored by both the WP and NYT.
Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)Then he must be doing something right!
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)the new york times editorial board----FAIL
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)we need someone with balls who will lead our nation to victory against our terrorist enemies
MBS
(9,688 posts)I wouldn't take their POV too seriously.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)malleusmaleficarum wrote:
9:28 AM UTC+1000
Chuck Hagel should be the next Secretary of Defense. Sad to say, but this editorial is deeply jingoistic, Islamophobic and fundamentally foolish. The hitherto distinction between the Washington Post and the Washinton Times is vanishing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/chuck-hagel-is-not-right-for-defense-secretary/2012/12/18/07e03e20-493c-11e2-ad54-580638ede391_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines
Cha
(297,322 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)We have plenty of people
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I think it's unwise to pull anyone else from the Senate at this point. With the death of Senator Inouye and Senator Kerry most likely being the SOS there will be two open seats. My understanding is the Governor of Hawaii will appoint a replacement. In MA we don't know for sure yet.
Also on governors we are at a disadvantage having lost so many statehouses in 2010. At this point we need to pick up, not lose governorship's.
The only other place is to look in the House or outside at people who not governors and senators. The next question become who in those categories are qualified. Probably not many.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)That is, the right choice. The more the neocons bitch about him, the better I like him.