Newt Gingrich: Sandy Hook Shooting Tied To Godless Society

[Redfairen]

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich suggested on Wednesday that the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre was tied to godlessness in contemporary American society.

Speaking to Brian Thomas of radio station 55KRC, Gingrich reflected on Friday's shooting in Newtown, Conn., which claimed the lives of 20 first-graders and six adults.

"When you have an anti-religious, secular bureaucracy and secular judiciary, seeking to drive God out of public life, something fills the vacuum," Gingrich said. "I don’t know that going from communion to playing war games, in which you practice killing people is necessarily an improvement."

Gingrich urged the national dialogue in the aftermath of the shooting to focus on the problems with America's youth, who "don't see their fellow Americans as human beings, but as objects."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/19/newt-gingrich-sandy-hook-_n_2330506.html

[ck4829]

1. Lanza destroyed his computer drives but made sure to leave his video games behind for all to see

One last middle finger I am sure.

[Lint Head]

2. So... Gingrich wants a theocracy like Iran. Typical Republican. Reagan gave them missles now

Gingrich wants to be like them.

[ROBROX]

20. WING NUT RIDES AGAIN

These evil people just talk to hear their own evil noise. These people lack the common sense to not put their feet in their own mouth. I think only stupid people will believe this evil thinking. This toady has lived beyond his small mind.

Who is paying this nut to come out from his wet rock???

[RKP5637]

27. +++ 1,000,000 +++ Couldn't have said it better!

[lastlib]

32. I got it in for the guy supplyin' the dimes, whoever it is.....

[WestCoastLib]

3. Atheists, Agnostics and supporters of Seperation of Church & State need to be ready...

The Religious right is going to pounce on this to try and further their agenda (when do they not try to pounce on any situation to further their agenda).

The reality is that atheists are less likely to be criminals or carry out gun violence than people of faith...

[RKP5637]

29. Often the violence is with the Religious right. Throughout history for eons these nuts have

provoked and perpetuated violence on all types of people. They are the personification of evilness. They need to go back and study their own religious nuttery, the devil comes in many forms.

[BeyondGeography]

4. The NRA pre-sell, for sure

Pays well, doesn't it Newt?

FYI, just like your plan to defeat Obama, it's not going to work out for you this time.

[Tanuki]

5. I wonder what Newt makes of the fact that Lanza attended St.Rose of Lima Catholic Church

and even went to their parochial school for a time. Hardly "Godless," I'd say.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/12/16/evacuation-ordered-newtown-church-during-mass/i05oFcIib5HyiCqBn1EtmL/story.html

[leftynyc]

6. Is he really claiming

that G-d just stood by and let 20 children and 6 adults get massacred just to teach us a lesson? Is that the G-d he wants us all to believe in and worship?

[Joe Bacon]

37. Sure, since Newt's God is Ayn Rand!

And in Ayn as in Mine's world, Anything Goes...

[Blue Owl]

7. Because nobody's ever been shot in the name of God

[immoderate]

8. So Newt, if shit could talk what would it say?

Newt neatly ignores the fact that the US rates at or near the top of industrialized countries in both religious followers and murder rates.

This religious rabble rousing is the latest incarnation of bigotry. Republicans need to fill out their numbers by attracting those who need to be driven by hatred. And the object of hatred can shift as needed. It's harvesting paranoia. Should be no surprise to DUers.

--imm

[RKP5637]

30. Newt needs a butt cover for his mouth! n/t

[Kennah]

41. They discontinued them in size "Motherfucking Huge"

[bemildred]

9. We're still waiting for our apology about the Clinton tax increase, Newt.

(It didn't cause a recession, rather the opposite, Newt was WRONG.)

[AdamJensen]

25. So if we're not in a recession, what are we in?

[bemildred]

39. Welcome to DU!!

Always good to see new blood around here.

[NICO9000]

10. Ah yes - that wise holy man Newtie!

This motherfucker is SHAMELESS! Only in the GOTP could such a failure be considered an elder statesman!

[sofa king]

11. Evil Endorses God

Of course, as the millions and millions of souls already lost to religious warfare could easily attest if they existed, people who follow god don't drop the war-gaming (chess, anyone?) or the massacres.

But they do kill more and play less.

[Sheepshank]

12. Let me get this straight: Belief in a God removes all mental disabilities?

somehow that doesn't seem quite believable.

He's just making up shit now to stay relevent to at least one group. That would be the group who always supports anyone who mentions the might of God, regardless of the context.

[JHB]

34. I protest your use of the word "now". "Making shit up" is the basis of Newt's entire career.

He won election after election in his suburban Atlanta district by bravely protecting them from the Peoples' Republic of Escape From New York. He routinely blurts out anything to attack an opponent or to cattle-prod an audience in a direction he wants it to go. He does it reflexively. His own allies coined the phrase "Tell Newt to shut up."

I'm quite serious about what I said in #28 below:
Excepting liquids and semi-liquids, nothing that comes out of his mouth can be taken at face value

[Mojo2]

13. Gingrich is a Scumbag

This guy should NEVER be lecturing anyone on MORALS, this is a vile scumbag that is dangerous to this country. If there is a heaven and hell, Gingrich is surely one person that has a one way ticket to hell for all of his moral misdeeds.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

14. He's right. We need a national dialogue.

Let's start with the subject of marital fidelity. I'd like to talk to either of your ex-wives, Newt

[Cha]

15. Yeah, everyone should be a

goddamn pig god like the newt.

[TwilightGardener]

16. I think it can be tied to Republican gun owners.

Just sayin'. Since that's the family who perpetrated this...

[Jennicut]

17. These idiots would rather blame lack of God in schools and society then discuss mental illness

and the lack of funding all states have to deal with it. And they sure as hell don't want to talk about guns.

[Third Doctor]

18. Who the hell can preach about a godless society

while being a serial adulterer at the same time? His name is Newt.

[Filibuster Harry]

19. And this guy really thought he could be OUR leader. Wouldn't you love to hear him say that

in a nationally televised speech as he addressed the people of Newtown, CT? And his discussions with the family members would be what? ABSOLUTELY PITIFAL.

[applegrove]

21. Maybe it is just me but I thought Jesus died for our sins. All of our sins. I thought

that after Jesus, humans were not supposed to scapegoat different other people when tragedy happens?

[ChoralScholar]

38. Now don't go introducing the teachings of Jesus

That's not what Christianity is about!!!! Wait... nevermind.

[davidpdx]

22. This is what was posted on my Facebook page by a friend the other day

It has become a meme on Facebook in the form of a graphic. I abhor the fact that people that call themselves Christians would use this to blame for the shooting.

[Zoeisright]

23. Fuck you, Newt.

You despicable worthless piece of shit and waste of oxygen.

[yellowcanine]

24. "When you have an anti-religious, secular bureaucracy and secular judiciary..."

Maybe Newtie would rather have Sharia law? "Welcome to Tehran, Mr. Gingrich"

[RKP5637]

26. Newt Gingrich is such a fool, just about everything he says is totally F'ed up IMO. n/t

[JHB]

28. Excepting liquids and semi-liquids, nothing that comes out of his mouth can be taken at face value

Newt says anything to advance whatever agenda he's pushing at the moment.

[JHB]

31. Which wife is he cheating on these days? 3rd or 4th? I lost track.

As for not seeing "fellow Americans as human beings, but as objects," I believe one Newton Leroy Gingrich used to advise his fellow Republicans to in terms that would elicit loathing and disgust from their audiences, and to treat political opponents not as fellow Americans with a differing view, but as traitors to be crushed.

Often we search hard for words to define our opponents. Sometimes we are hesitant to use contrast. Remember that creating a difference helps you. These are powerful words that can create a clear and easily understood contrast. Apply these to the opponent, their record, proposals and their party.

abuse of power
anti- (issue): flag, family, child, jobs
betray
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"compassion" is not enough
collapse(ing)
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criminal rights
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excuses
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greed
hypocrisy
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steal
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unionized
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waste
welfare

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm

[liberalmuse]

33. Actually, Godless societies don't have the gun deaths we do.

We're one of the most religious "developed" nations in the world.

[SummerSnow]

35. He must know...he was cheating on his dying wife.godless indeed.Hypocrit.

[kestrel91316]

36. America is a "godless society"?????

Sure could have fooled me. There's a church or synagogue or mosque or some such on every street corner in most of the US.

[Live and Learn]

40. Newt has no problem with real wars but war games are bad? nt

[Kennah]

42. "don't see their fellow Americans as human beings, but as objects"

You gotta be shitting me!? That fucker said this while sucking at the ass of corporations led by people without a reflection!?

[lunatica]

43. Being an expert on godlessness he would know

He sees everyone as objects, mostly to be abused for profit.

[CBHagman]

44. Then why did people in the Bible Belt try to burn the Freedom Riders alive?

Why were civil rights activists beaten and firebombed and shot? Way to let your light shine for Jesus, people!

[ur]http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/The-Freedom-Riders.html[/url]

On Sunday, May 14, 1961—Mother's Day—scores of angry white people blocked a Greyhound bus carrying black and white passengers through rural Alabama. The attackers pelted the vehicle with rocks and bricks, slashed tires, smashed windows with pipes and axes and lobbed a firebomb through a broken window. As smoke and flames filled the bus, the mob barricaded the door. "Burn them alive," somebody cried out. "Fry the goddamn niggers." An exploding fuel tank and warning shots from arriving state troopers forced the rabble back and allowed the riders to escape the inferno. Even then some were pummeled with baseball bats as they fled.

A few hours later, black and white passengers on a Trailways bus were beaten bloody after they entered whites-only waiting rooms and restaurants at bus terminals in Birmingham and Anniston, Alabama.

The bus passengers assaulted that day were Freedom Riders, among the first of more than 400 volunteers who traveled throughout the South on regularly scheduled buses for seven months in 1961 to test a 1960 Supreme Court decision that declared segregated facilities for interstate passengers illegal.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

45. I expect that Lanza and his family went to church?