2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPaul Ryan lies again
He got famous for telling fibs during the campaign. Now hes dissembling about his attack on societys takers
BY JOAN WALSH
Last seen blaming urban voters (you know who hes talking about) for his and Mitt Romneys bitter November defeat, Rep. Paul Ryan returned to the prevaricating ways he made famous throughout the campaign on Tuesday. There were his silly lies about his marathon time, of course, and perhaps more serious, his serial lies in his acceptance speech at the Republican convention in Tampa, Fla., last August, on welfare, GM restructuring and the 2009 stimulus bill. Its hard to know exactly what words to use to describe his campaign appearance helping at a soup kitchen that turned out to be a photo op showing him scrubbing already clean pots and pans, but honest isnt one of them.
Now Ryan is trying to squirm out of the lasso in which the president captured him in his inaugural address Monday. The commitments we make to each other through Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us, Obama said with indignation. They do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.
Everyone who followed the 2012 campaign knew Obama was talking about Ryan as surely as if hed said his name.
But now Ryan is complaining that Obama is being unfair, and that he never included Social Security and Medicare recipients in his attacks on takers. On the Laura Ingraham Show, he told a guest host that those programs are not taker programs. He accused the president of a switcheroo and said he had decided to shadowbox with a straw man and misrepresent the GOP position on those programs.
The problem, as Mother Jones points out, is that Ryan is on record in several places saying that the 60 to 70 percent of Americans who receive some sort of government assistance are making us a society where we have a net majority of takers versus makers. He says he got those numbers from a Tax Foundation study which included Medicare and Social Security recipients to get that number.
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http://www.salon.com/2013/01/22/paul_ryan_lies_again/
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)ladym55
(2,577 posts)I'm tired of being told by M$M that that little weasel should be taken seriously.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)If you don't include Social Security or Medicare recipients, you don't get anywhere near 47%.
kairos12
(12,891 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)We all know him well now. And unfortunately for him women aren't about to forget his delicate touch when discussing the merits of rape.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)given his track record of being honest.
Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)But 2 points here:
1) He had to include SS and Medicare recipients to get to his 60 to 70 %; If he didn't include them maybe he is including our military???
2) If he truly believes that he never included SS and Medicare recipients in his attacks on "takers" then why is there any reason for him to complain?? He wasn't mentioned personally so why complain?? BECAUSE HE REALLY KNOWS WHAT HE SAID AND MEANT