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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 12:58 AM Apr 2012

All this "let's control womens' vaginas" meme in the GOP about freedom for conservative men from

sublimating their testosterone desires to control women's sexuality, women's time? Does it imply that either men or women have to sublimate to coexist? (women have historically sublimated their various needs to fit cultural expectations until the womens' movement set them free). Cause that is bull****! We have to stop the GOP from re-sublimating women in the name of FREEDOM for men to be hierarchical & immature.

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All this "let's control womens' vaginas" meme in the GOP about freedom for conservative men from (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2012 OP
Right wing men simply can't stand losing the illusion Warpy Apr 2012 #1
CORRECT Skittles Apr 2012 #2
It means that Republicans can't get laid without cash or coercion. aquart Apr 2012 #3
The sad part is that, at least in the U.S., it takes women to enable this... polichick Apr 2012 #4
I wouldn't only single out the Catholic Church... elzenmahn Apr 2012 #6
Not only was Jesus NOT anti-woman, at least one gospel was... polichick Apr 2012 #7
I agree with that. Kath1 Apr 2012 #8
Kudos to you! I know it can be hard to quit the church, especially when... polichick Apr 2012 #9
Thanks Kath1 Apr 2012 #10
Glad you had a good support system - women need to stick together! polichick Apr 2012 #11
Yes We Do! Kath1 Apr 2012 #12
Thanks :) polichick Apr 2012 #13
When women vote GOP they are supporting their own bondage UCmeNdc Apr 2012 #5

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
1. Right wing men simply can't stand losing the illusion
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 01:30 AM
Apr 2012

of being completely in control over all the women they know. It makes them crazy. This is true whether they're Teabaggers in the US or Taliban in Afghanistan.

Remember, they always declare war against women first, whenever they get into power.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
4. The sad part is that, at least in the U.S., it takes women to enable this...
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:13 AM
Apr 2012

Every woman who votes Republican allows this crap - and, imo, every woman who supports the Catholic church.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
6. I wouldn't only single out the Catholic Church...
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:30 PM
Apr 2012

...as guilty as they are for their continued subjugation of women, their enabling of pedophilia, their history of support for the Crusades and the Inquisition, etc., etc., etc.

The majority of Christian denominations worldwide (not all), as well as other faiths, are dominated by men, and have been for thousands of years. It's the entire mind-set of male dominance that must be defeated - and as we've see with other social ills (racism, xenophobia, etc), a mind-set dies hard, and slooooowwwly, if at all. If it took us thousands of years to get to this point, how long will it take us to change course? Not overnight, I'm afraid.

It should also be mentioned (as I'm sure that many would agree): I don't see any passage within the New Testament where Jesus mentions the concept that women were to be subordinate to men. If you can find it anywhere in there - again, with JESUS saying anything to that regard - please let me know.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
7. Not only was Jesus NOT anti-woman, at least one gospel was...
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:52 PM
Apr 2012

...written by a woman, many believe to have been the co-leader of Jesus' movement and his wife.

A fascinating book to check out is Elaine Pagel's THE GNOSTIC GOSPELS

http://www.amazon.com/The-Gnostic-Gospels-Elaine-Pagels/dp/0679724532


It's no accident that today's gospels were chosen by the early church over other, equally important, gospels that empowered women and people in general.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
8. I agree with that.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:32 AM
Apr 2012

That is exactly why I quit the Church in 2004 and why I will NEVER vote republican.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
9. Kudos to you! I know it can be hard to quit the church, especially when...
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 11:33 AM
Apr 2012

...there's family tradition involved.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
10. Thanks
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 01:55 PM
Apr 2012

Being 45 at the time, there was a lot of family tradition involved. My parents and sister did not take it well at all. Luckily for me,I had some good friends who had already quit over reproductive rights issues who encouraged me and gave me support.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
5. When women vote GOP they are supporting their own bondage
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:17 AM
Apr 2012

The GOP seems set on enslaving women and controlling them.

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