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kairos12

(12,861 posts)
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 07:40 PM Mar 2013

One Percent View of the Poor or Working Class

http://my.firedoglake.com/tomthumb/2013/03/09/comfortable-myths-about-poverty-british-churches-fight-back/

If our society misrepresents those who are at its margins,

blaming them for their poverty and ignoring the massive

injustices at work, then we are all set to fail. We will see

greater depths of poverty; greater suffering as children are

entrenched in circumstances which are damaging to body,

mind and soul. We will see a society which is unsustainable

and divided, where those with power or privilege are willfully

blind to those without.


Quote is taken from linked article about England, applies times 10 here in the U.S.
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One Percent View of the Poor or Working Class (Original Post) kairos12 Mar 2013 OP
Historically speaking..... Wounded Bear Mar 2013 #1
The elite are greedy but not stupid. They recognize that there is an optimum level rhett o rick Mar 2013 #3
there might be that recognition Skittles Mar 2013 #6
I think it's in their DNA to understand that you need to stop flogging short of death. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #11
Agreement, there is no amount that can slake their thirst for greed kairos12 Mar 2013 #13
It doesn't matter what they think if we have 99 percent of the vote. Herlong Mar 2013 #2
You cant be series. Do you realize that only a mere 38% of eligible voters voted for rhett o rick Mar 2013 #4
I am totaly serious. Herlong Mar 2013 #7
I didnt call you series. In fact I said "you cant be series", he is much taller. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #9
Electorate, thy middle and last name is apathy kairos12 Mar 2013 #12
Yes and as a apathetic society, we are getting what we deserve. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #14
it's not what you and I deserve,rhett o rick Skittles Mar 2013 #20
No, and we wont give up the good fight. Do what you can but NGU. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #21
The 62% of eligible voters that didn't vote... bvar22 Mar 2013 #15
I just read "The Irony of Democracy", which is a text book for American Government rhett o rick Mar 2013 #16
In the case of Shrub it was a sock puppet run by elites kairos12 Mar 2013 #17
Of course. Shrub made the perfect president for the ruling oligarchs. He was so easy to manipulate rhett o rick Mar 2013 #18
Love that clip kairos12 Mar 2013 #5
The plan is people. Herlong Mar 2013 #8
We all have the same agenda Herlong Mar 2013 #10
Which is quite a radical idea. Igel Mar 2013 #19

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
1. Historically speaking.....
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:15 PM
Mar 2013

times of great wealth inequality tend to lead to times of violence and trouble. The end result has not always been a correction in the income inequality, unfortunately. Most often, it is just another minority segment of the populace that takes over from the old.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
3. The elite are greedy but not stupid. They recognize that there is an optimum level
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:39 PM
Mar 2013

of "harvesting" of our wealth and resources, before we revolt. They wont gain from a revolution, so I say they will back off slightly when they figure they have "harvested" us as much as they can.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
6. there might be that recognition
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:49 PM
Mar 2013

but it's not enough to make them stop f***ing us - simply put, there is NEVER enough money for those greedy bastards

kairos12

(12,861 posts)
13. Agreement, there is no amount that can slake their thirst for greed
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 09:05 PM
Mar 2013

We don't negotiate with terrorists, replace terrorists with banksters.

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
2. It doesn't matter what they think if we have 99 percent of the vote.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:38 PM
Mar 2013

Our country. Our voice. We vote.

What about drawing a line in the sand with the notion that we are sovereign, and we vote.



Occupy sanity.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. You cant be series. Do you realize that only a mere 38% of eligible voters voted for
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:45 PM
Mar 2013

Pres Obama? That means 62% of eligible voters either didnt give a shit or voted for dip-shit Romney.

Also, the oligarchs number one political party is working night and day to eliminate many of our votes. If we dont fix that, kiss our "representative" government goodbye.

Besides often our choices are oligarch puppet number one vs. oligarch puppet number two. So yeah we get to vote, but the 1% win anywayz.

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
7. I am totaly serious.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:54 PM
Mar 2013

And please don't call me series. I am here on your democratic underground because I believe we can get people to vote, and I'm not going away until we do.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. I didnt call you series. In fact I said "you cant be series", he is much taller.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:59 PM
Mar 2013

And it aint my Democratic Underground. Good luck getting the apathetic away from their American Idol.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
15. The 62% of eligible voters that didn't vote...
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 09:26 PM
Mar 2013

...believe that voting won't change their desperate economic situation,
and they have some good cause for arriving at that conclusion.
Voter Apathy is NOT the fault of the voters.
It IS the product of our system.

When the Working Class & The Poor realize that WE have more in common with each other
than we have in common with our Ruling Elite 1% Class,
THEN we WILL have "change".

As long as we are divided by Fox News and two dominant Political parties that control the elections and the Political Debate in the USA, not much will change.



 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. I just read "The Irony of Democracy", which is a text book for American Government
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:12 PM
Mar 2013

as influenced by elite theory. Elite Theory says that all organizations and all societies are ruled by a minority of elites. I cant disagree. The best we can hope for is to convince the elites that it is in their best interest they not let us die.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. Of course. Shrub made the perfect president for the ruling oligarchs. He was so easy to manipulate
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:29 PM
Mar 2013

Cheney should be embarrassed.

kairos12

(12,861 posts)
5. Love that clip
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:48 PM
Mar 2013

I believe, though, it matters that we understand how they think. For example, SCOTUS will probably overturn the Voting Rights Act. Why? Because "those people" are somehow racially entitled to vote and are not deserving of the franchise. Knowing this now gives us the ability to plan long-term about how to blunt their strategy. As you say, voting is important, and they will attempt to stop us from doing that. They already tried but the VRA stopped them. It may not be there next time.

Know your enemy, and plan.

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
8. The plan is people.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:57 PM
Mar 2013


We have loads of people in the United States of America

I'm here for them, even if they don't vote.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
19. Which is quite a radical idea.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 11:08 PM
Mar 2013

One that isn't as widely shared as could be hoped.

Now, if you redefine "all" to mean "some," then you can get really wide agreement.

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