2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRon Paul to headline September ‘anti-Semitic conference’
The Southern Poverty Law Centers Hatewatch blog noted on Tuesday that Paul had reportedly accepted the speaking engagement at the Fatima Centers September Fatima: The Path to Peace conference in Canada.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/20/ron-paul-to-headline-september-anti-semitic-conference/
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Well, not really.
DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)But I like it when he shows his spots.
Paul supporters will turn a blind eye or come up with excuses -- denialism of one kind or another, in any case.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Though it does explain why so many can't tell time.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Even Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell had a bunch of cheerleaders here...
I thought DU should have done a better housecleaning back then...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)so clearly this story must be in error.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I literally can't even say Greenwald has a big ego in GD without getting piled on...And that's something he'd probably be the FIRST to admit...
Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)favorable to Israel. Okay then !!
MarkLaw
(204 posts)Paul want's to end all military aid to any country.
What is anti-semitic about that???
If your going to hate on Ron Paul at least pick something truthful to hate on him about.
Jeesh.
DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)MarkLaw
(204 posts)All speakers share one thing in common: a keen understanding that the nations of the world suffer profound disorder, that evil and shocking immorality are on the rise, that war and violence steadily increase, that the stability of our entire social order is at stake, and that a solution to the present chaos is of utmost necessity, a statement from the Fatima Center said.
Doesn't sound anti-Semitic to me one bit.
Unless you can provide quotes from the Fatima Center that are anti-Semitic, not simply critical of Israel, most people will assume that the label is again used to STIGMATIZE any group or person that criticizes Israel.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Fuck Ron Paul, and his pathetic apologists.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)And don't forget how Ron Paul's chief promoter, Alex Jones does an annual show on the USS Liberty and whips up the hate about Israel.
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Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)The archive is still online somewhere....
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/politics/angry-white-man
MarkLaw
(204 posts)I get sick of people calling groups/people anti-semitic simply because they criticize Israeli apartheid or racism.
Dirks response is disturbing not just for how it distorts the past. It is perhaps even more alarming for what it portends for the future. The new Chancellor of UC Berkeley is walking into a situation in which the California State Assembly has passed a bill that equates defense of Palestinian rights and criticism of the policies of the state of Israel with anti-Semitism (Bill HR 35, a nonbinding resolution); he is walking into an institutional context in which his boss, the president of the University of California system, was apparently involved in commenting on and drafting that very same bill (see Center for Constitutional Rights letter to UC President Yudof, PDF); he is walking into a political reality in which several Title VI cases are pending against schools in the UC system, accusing them of fostering a hostile learning environment for Jewish students; and he is taking charge of a campus in which Arab, Muslim and other students advocating for Palestinian rights are being targeted by specific Zionist activist groups for creating a campus climate that is anti-Semitic and hostile to Jewish students (see CCR letter to Yudof).
The newsletters weren't written by Paul. He should have ended the publication, but there wasn't anything Anti-Semitic in them.
In the video below it sounds like Paul not only disagrees with what may have been written in the Newsletters, but wants to implement policies that would Equalize civil rights, specifically as they pertain to unequal targeting of Black Americans by the justice system.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)1. The "Paul didn't write those" excuse was a flimsy cop-out in '08 and is just pathetic now...HIS name is on the newsletters, so HE takes editorial responsibility...
2. Of course Paul is going to say the *proper* thing as a presidential candidate talking on national TV...
MarkLaw
(204 posts)the thread doesn't even have anything to do with the Newsletter.
Hell I don't even like Ron Paul, however I think organizations that demonize antiwar activists, which the SPLC has, don't have a place in civil discourse.
And since I'm being attacked on this thread, I'm just going to knock down every one of the lies posted here.
If you have a motivation to spread a message DO IT WITH THE TRUTH OTHERWISE people will think you are as crazy as Rense or L Ron Hubbard.
What? Like this?
Here's a quick peak of Hillarys top donors, do any of them support nurses. Seems most support outsourcing.
EMILY's List $536,939
DLA Piper $482,950
JPMorgan Chase & Co $426,454
Citigroup Inc $409,517
Goldman Sachs $386,150
Morgan Stanley $370,230
University of California $271,878
Lehman Brothers $253,753
Skadden, Arps et al $217,460
National Amusements Inc $217,404
News Corp $197,850
Greenberg Traurig LLP $197,400
Merrill Lynch $194,109
Kirkland & Ellis $187,141
Microsoft Corp $183,119
Time Warner $181,406
PricewaterhouseCoopers $180,600
Ernst & Young $158,930
Cablevision Systems $156,363
General Electric $154,871
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Oh!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)...and your video is from Infowars.
...and the Fatima Center was founded by an antisemitic radical traditionalist (Nicholas Gruner)
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2006/winter/the-dirty-dozen?page=0,2
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Seriously, he went for years with his name stuck on those newsletters and never once bothered to see what kind of material was contained in them?
Do you REALLY believe a grown ass man who is holding a seat in Congress would never look to see what material he was putting his name on?
You might choose to be that naïve, but I'm gonna go with the much, much more likely scenario that Paul never anticipated how unacceptable the racist views he was endorsing would eventually become and one day he woke up and realized that he needed to play stupid about the newsletters.
Fuck Ron Paul.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)For him to write letters like that and sign them and try to cover them up years later, he did a really bad job of that.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)William769
(55,146 posts)And anyone who supports that asshole in any way shape or form.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)You stole my thunder, William769, but GMTA!
William769
(55,146 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)He dissed Hill.
With you in the thread, that's suicide!