2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumcan anyone explain how Booker beat Pallone and Holt?
Booker is a poser, he is beloved by the same people who loved Obama until he showed his stuff.
Booker is a showboater, he makes pr events of rescuing snowed-in people and he loves puppies.
Geez- and this is why people voted for him?!
Pallone and Holt have long records of real accomplishments.
while booker:
"while running as a nominal Democrat, Booker is and has been deeply entrenched with the vulture capitalists and their disaster capitalism education "reform", grew up in and has never rejected the religious right (while selling himself as gay-friendly, he's cultivated the same extremist movement that has promoted homophobia in Uganda and benefited from their mythology of Newark's "transformation" , is steeped in Wall Street money and philosophy and is deeply admired by the usual right-wing think tanks.
cheerleader for privatized schools, school vouchers and friend of Michelle Rhee
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/nj-voters-pick-anybody-cory-booker
djean111
(14,255 posts)And, he is a DINO. Difficult to beat that combination, no?
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)That is heavily financed by NYC banking interests (same people that have actually endorsed CHRISTIE over Buono) . . .
That's how he won.
And no - those reasons are not why people voted for him. You do a disservice to the people I'm touching EVERY single weekend to GOTV for Buono when you reduce them to being overly emotional simpletons who are suckers for a photo op.<---- That probably comes across harsher as intended - but that's my perception.
We have a PARTY MACHINE in NJ that makes Tammany look like child's play.
Now - I understand the need to post this as we are leftists at DU and the thing du jour is to fuck up elections for anyone other than Sanders, Grayson, Warren, etc. etc.
But Crooks and Liars can go fuck themselves. Yep - I mean it - bend over and take bats up their asses sideways.
Madrak (author article) is REALLY saying anyone but Booker? What is wrong with that woman. We've got TWO choices - booker v lonegan.
ellenr - DO YOU KNOW WHAT LONEGAN BELIEVES? Do you REALLY want a vicious woman hating, minority hating, selfish self centered son of bitch to win and Represent me? Do you support this asshole at C and L trying to influence people to put this man in office? I want to know EVERYTHING about her because I point blank don't trust anyone who says anyone but Booker when the only other choice is Lonegan.
Good, bad, indifferent - the people of NJ have NO CHOICE but to vote for Booker that regardless of his faults -
Will never ever vote to roll back abortion rights or send his fellow black Americans back to the share cropping field which I'm CERTAIN would make Lonegan cream his jeans. He jerks off at night to that - swear to God. And I don't care if it is a nasty unsubstantiated smear - it's fitting for a misogynist PIG like that.
Now - what is Crooks and Liar's end game here with this bullshit? We don't have ANY EFFIN' TIME to waste on what MUST be a sure thing.
All hands on Deck for Bouono and let Booker win. Even if she loses - we need to do anything and everything we can to pull this election closer than it is to show the rest of America that Christie is not just a certain and sure thing.
This article is designed to take attention and focus off of the race that REALLY matters to New Jerseyans and the election that REALLY matters because we have an initiative to increase the minimum wage on the ballot. And it is NOT the one happening in October.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)She has nothing good to say about the President
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)on DU.
Isn't it interesting how the anybody-but-insert-Democrat's-name-here are actually promoting Rethugs? Oh, but it's cause they're just "principled leftists". Riiiiiiiiiight.
Julie
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Thanks for understanding my rant on this.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Two liberal congressmen from adjoining districts with nearly identical records vs a popular Newark mayor. What opposition there was to Booker was pretty much diluted by the fact that the progressive vote was split between his two worthy opponants.
I voted for Holt in the primary. (It was a tough decision because I also like Pallone) In the general election I'm voting for Booker. That is not a hard choice since Lonegan is a total wackjob, mysogynist nutcase.
Unlike the author of this article I live in the real world.
brooklynite
(94,547 posts)Booker got more than Pallone and Holt combined
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Still, it's possible that a single a single opposition candidate might have done better. I'm perfectly OK with supporting Cory Booker in the general election so it doesn't particularly matter to me.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Booker was probably going to win, anyway, but also consider Newark and its makeup. Very diverse, but also heavily black. Holt and Pallone probably couldn't pull much of that vote from Booker.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Had one or the other ran - it would have been a tough race. Me - I voted for Pallone.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Booker won by 59.17% (Pallone got 19.8%, Holt 16.76%, and Sheila Oliver 4.27%--all three candidates getting just over 40%).
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Anyone who voted for the four . . . we are all voting for Booker - and that's all that matters. Have to make sure I send in my ballot toute suite!
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frazzled
(18,402 posts)I think people need to step outside their own political boxes and realize that not everyone agrees with your particular assessment of a candidate, or with the criteria by which you judge them. And it would be a mistake to write these people off as merely stupid and uninformed. If you want to give power to the people, give it to the people, and stop thinking you know more than they do.
You may be right or you may be wrong ... remember, the consensus candidates on DU were John Edwards (touted as the best progressive thing since sliced bread, even though his record was completely conservative) and Anthony Weiner (nuff said). Not everybody agreed with DU. In these particular cases, they were right.
In the end, your duty is to make the arguments for and against the candidates as you see fit; but when you lose, you have to respect, or at least live with, the peoples' choices.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Booker already had a national profile by the time he was running for Senate, Pallone and Holt were unknown outside of their districts. Democrats (including white Democrats) tend to be concerned about the fact that minorities are underrepresented in congress, particularly in the Senate. Given a white candidate and a minority candidate, Democrats are going to tend to pick the minority candidate so long as they believe that the minority candidate can win a general election.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Maybe for white Democrats - but Liberal Stalwart made some good points two days ago . . . Black Democrats consistently pick the best candidate we think represents our value system. In my case - I picked Pallone. In 2008 -I was in Edwards camp.
I do think at the National Level the Democratic Party wants a black Senator though . . . They could care less about putting a woman in Trenton.
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)Or maybe you didn't forget but chose to ignore it.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/newark-mayor-cory-booker-rescues-neighbor-from-fire/
"Showboater" or just maybe someone who gives a damn about his fellow citizens? You think when he saved his neighbor he first considered how it would look good on his political resume? Are you that cynical about everyone?
Could be he is just a good guy. I think so and he is getting my vote, as he did in the primary.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)I voted for Pallone, and I will admit to being absent from NJ for the duration of the primary campaign (currently awaiting my absentee ballot so I can vote for Booker). Until redistricting, I lived in Pallone's district and still consider him my congressman over that piece of %^& Chris Smith who I have now.
I've met Pallone, Holt, and Booker several times. I can tell you stories about meeting each one of them. All very nice and personable guys.
As for the progressive vote-- I do wish that the two congressmen would have decided among themselves who would run for the seat and then it could have been a progressive force.
But I'm voting Booker in the general as soon as my ballot comes because Steve Lonegan must be stopped at all costs.