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mnhtnbb

(31,388 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:23 PM Nov 2013

GOP "Extemist" Movement prompts NC candidate to switch to Dem

A Republican congressional candidate is renouncing his party and switching his affiliation to Democrat.

Jason Thigpen, who is challenging Republican U.S. Rep. Walter Jones in the 3rd Congressional District, wrote a blistering assessment of his former party, saying his shift was precipitated by the tea party push for a government shutdown.

“I simply cannot stand with a party where its most extreme element promote hate and division amongst people,” Thigpen said in a statement posted to his campaign website Thursday. “Nothing about my platform has, nor will it change. The government shutdown was simply the straw that broke the camels back. I guess being an American just isn’t good enough anymore and I refuse to be part of an extremist movement in the GOP that only appears to thrive on fear and hate mongering of anyone and everyone who doesn’t walk their line.”

Thigpen is a six-year Army veteran who received a Purple Heart, according to his website. He graduated from UNC-Wilmington in May and started a nonprofit group called Student Veterans Advocacy Group. The 36-year-old lives in Holly Ridge with his wife and four children.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/10/31/3329326/gop-extremist-movement-prompts.html#storylink=cpy


WOW! That ought to get some attention. Don't know whether it will help him in the primary--or whether he could possibly
win against Jones.

There's more in his statement here:

“I didn’t go to war to defend the liberties and freedoms of one party, race, sex, or one income class of Americans. So, to come home from serving our country and see North Carolina legislators using their super-majority status to gerrymander districts and pass a law to deliberately suppress and oppress the voting rights of Democrats but more specifically minorities and college students, is absolutely deplorable.

“This same group of spineless legislators piggybacked a motorcycle safety bill with legislation intentionally geared to shut down women’s health clinics because of their ‘right righteous’ beliefs on abortion, while then cutting funding to the programs which help feed and provide healthcare to the babies they invariably forced the same women to have. Sounds like the Christian thing to do, huh?”

Full statement here: http://www.thigpenforcongress.com/hate-has-no-home-in-representation-congressional-candidate-for-nc3-parts-company-with-the-gop-to-run-on-the-democratic-ticket-by-christopher-dean/


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GOP "Extemist" Movement prompts NC candidate to switch to Dem (Original Post) mnhtnbb Nov 2013 OP
I'LL take him even though he's probably more to the right of me and most DU'res bigdarryl Nov 2013 #1
...which is leading to the Democratic Party being taken over by conservatives.[n/t] Maedhros Nov 2013 #12
Go away, GOP. We don't need any more of you in our Party. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #24
I'm not jumping for joy... elzenmahn Nov 2013 #41
But Why Would You Take Him? BodieTown Nov 2013 #47
I didn't know "staunch Baptist" was a deal-breaker. Tanuki Nov 2013 #48
These chameleon critters need to be watched closely if they win as a Dem. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #53
Great Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #2
Yes, that's a problem. polichick Nov 2013 #4
I noticed as well BrotherIvan Nov 2013 #6
posted that about a month ago. Chaco Dundee Nov 2013 #22
I hope the Dems don't become ratfuckers. L0oniX Nov 2013 #38
that is my fear as well. Chaco Dundee Nov 2013 #39
I really think that is the purpose for the creation of the Tea Party by the Koch Bros/elite. stillwaiting Nov 2013 #7
Sinister plot - but I wouldnt put it past them... polichick Nov 2013 #9
NO. MORE. "BIPARTISANSHIP." blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #25
Soon the Democratic party may hold the all the views of the traditional Republican party. Kablooie Nov 2013 #11
It's already like that Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #16
To his credit, Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #17
Quite. I think Obama's foreign policy has been fairly good. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #30
I get confused by the neoconservative foreign policy line... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #43
+1, Kablooie. That's the Goal. A right of center Party, and a lunatic hard right Party. And we'll be blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #26
All these Lieber-crats are moving our party more to the right. AlbertCat Nov 2013 #21
I suspect a lot of that is going on right here too. L0oniX Nov 2013 #36
Good to know there are a few sane Republicans left - oh wait, he's a Dem! polichick Nov 2013 #3
DEM's not even worth the toilet paper it's written on, anymore... blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #27
Yeah, the lesser of evils ain't what it used to be. polichick Nov 2013 #29
What's he going to do when we start dragging the Overton Window back in the other direction? corkhead Nov 2013 #5
If he's not going to change his platform, why run as a Democrat? Arkana Nov 2013 #8
It's a move based on pragmatism, not a change of heart DFW Nov 2013 #10
Why not go independent? L0oniX Nov 2013 #37
I'm guessing here DFW Nov 2013 #42
Based on his comments so far, I'll take himn too - for a NC Dem Tom Rinaldo Nov 2013 #13
He doesn't bother me. Laelth Nov 2013 #31
"Speaker Pelosi could still twist his arm when absolutely necessary" Yep... Tom Rinaldo Nov 2013 #32
um, divide + conquer has been the GOP since like FOREVER. you just could not SEE it. pansypoo53219 Nov 2013 #14
Yay! More "Change!" blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #28
Less than it appears: It's an R+10 district with a R incumbent who is not this guy jeff47 Nov 2013 #15
My Answer is, BillyRibs Nov 2013 #18
Wow! K&R&T! n/t jenmito Nov 2013 #19
Classic pi**ing in the pool. Yea go be a libertarian. don't be fooled he sees the numbers bonniebgood Nov 2013 #20
Bad news. The Republicans need to stay in their own Party, and not run as Third Way/Blue Dogs/DINO's blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #23
+1000 dotymed Nov 2013 #49
Massive kudos to him for calling the voter laws what they really are Ian_rd Nov 2013 #33
He's just being huffy and making a symbolic gesture. Rozlee Nov 2013 #34
southerner frog64 Nov 2013 #35
True, but there are plenty more, I know fascisthunter Nov 2013 #40
Yep, south-bashing is easily used for divide and rule tactics, on us. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #44
Bottom line: if this makes "Speaker Pelosi" more likely, I'm for it scheming daemons Nov 2013 #45
I'm with you. mnhtnbb Nov 2013 #46
Absolutely. In 2009 Mississippi had a 3-1 Democratic delegation. Today its 3-1 Republican Rowdyboy Nov 2013 #50
I totally agree. Anyone here who thinks differently should ask themselves Tanuki Nov 2013 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #52
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
1. I'LL take him even though he's probably more to the right of me and most DU'res
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:27 PM
Nov 2013

Your going to see a lot of this in the future because the rethug party is taken over by the NUTS

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
41. I'm not jumping for joy...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:19 PM
Nov 2013

...when it comes right down to it, D and R are just labels. The people who hold those labels are who's important here, and my concern is that the Dem party may move even further to the right as a result.

BodieTown

(147 posts)
47. But Why Would You Take Him?
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:49 PM
Nov 2013

He could become an independent. He's no "lib".

He's a staunch Baptist and has been a Bush con up until today. Don't tell me he didn't smell the t-baggers when the rest of us did, so many years ago. Or maybe he's just an excruciatingly slow learner?

The infiltration of his type into Dem party is to dilute it and ultimately extinguish it. I think it's an acceleration of an existing 'con strategy.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
48. I didn't know "staunch Baptist" was a deal-breaker.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:47 AM
Nov 2013

That would have excluded Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, the gentleman in your own avatar pic, and many more...

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
6. I noticed as well
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:14 PM
Nov 2013

That he could "switch" to running as Democrat "without changing his platform." Funny, huh?

But many here will scream that a checkbox in the D column is better than nothing. And yes, the tea party majorities passing this insane legislation must be stopped. But as far as I can tell, it's the real Democrats like Wendy Davis who have the balls/ovaries to take on the nutters. Should we be happy there is one less RWNJ, yes. Should we be satisfied with a DINO: NO!


p.s. and to anyone who starts screaming, my auto-retort is: if someone has been voting Republican all these years--through Reagan and both Bushes--then they have proven themselves to be a selfish git, and changing sides now can't fix that.

Chaco Dundee

(334 posts)
39. that is my fear as well.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 12:44 PM
Nov 2013

I wish Dem's would point those rats toward Independence instead of accepting them into their ranks.anybody can claim to have had a change of mind.but have they?

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
7. I really think that is the purpose for the creation of the Tea Party by the Koch Bros/elite.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:15 PM
Nov 2013

We seem to have the choice between stark, raving mad lunatics (on just about everything) and 1980's-era Republicans that are mostly enlightened on social issues.

There is currently zero threat to the status quo on economic issues.

Zero. And so the elite will continue to amass more and more of our wealth and income (as has happened since the 70's).

polichick

(37,152 posts)
9. Sinister plot - but I wouldnt put it past them...
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:39 PM
Nov 2013

Dem voters have to change the game during our next primaries.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
25. NO. MORE. "BIPARTISANSHIP."
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:38 PM
Nov 2013

Stay in the GOP, where your heart is anyway. We don't need any more Blue Dogs.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
11. Soon the Democratic party may hold the all the views of the traditional Republican party.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:51 PM
Nov 2013

and the traditional Democratic party views will fade away if this keeps up.
And I'm sure corporate money will continue to pour more Republicans into the Democratic pool.

At least we will have a dedicated opposition party but they will all be within the Democratic party.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
16. It's already like that
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:20 PM
Nov 2013

We still have some some actual progressives (like Sanders for example), but don't forget that many more Dems flip and vote with Republicons than the other way around.

And Obama has largely carried on America's long-running RW neoconservative foreign policy.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
17. To his credit,
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:42 PM
Nov 2013

"And Obama has largely carried on America's long-running RW neoconservative foreign policy."

he has done his job by keeping the country safe since first being elected. He coordinated the killing of the person responsible for 9/11, Ghaddafi went down under his watch, he ended the Iraq War and is drawing down the Afghan War, there are less troop casualties now, there have been no more 9/11-type attacks here, and there have been no other new wars started under this administration. It would've been a different story under a President Romney or McCain. In fact, even Reagan managed to start at least one war during his presidency.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
43. I get confused by the neoconservative foreign policy line...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:21 AM
Nov 2013

As if interventionism began in the 1980s with Reagan and his ilk. In fact, prior to the 80s, it was the Democrats who were pro-interventionism and Republicans who aligned more with the isolationist ideologues. The irony is that, beyond Jimmy Carter, Obama is probably the least pro-war Democratic president we've ever had and yet, many liberals assault him as some puppet for neoconservatism.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
26. +1, Kablooie. That's the Goal. A right of center Party, and a lunatic hard right Party. And we'll be
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:41 PM
Nov 2013
told to clap louder, lest the evil far right should "win." No thanks. I'm OUT!
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
21. All these Lieber-crats are moving our party more to the right.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:27 PM
Nov 2013

I agree.

My cynicism tells me he switched because he thinks Repugs are gonna lose big in NC and he just wants to be on the winning side. IOW, he believes in nothing. So, a typical GOPer, not a Dem.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
8. If he's not going to change his platform, why run as a Democrat?
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:39 PM
Nov 2013

His issues page still reads like every other Teabagger nutjob I've ever seen. "Government doesn't create jobs! Free markets mean free people! The President is compromising our national identity!"

DFW

(54,377 posts)
10. It's a move based on pragmatism, not a change of heart
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:43 PM
Nov 2013

If he's running in a district where batshit crazy is the only thing that sells in the Republican primary, it was disappear or change parties.

DFW

(54,377 posts)
42. I'm guessing here
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:59 PM
Nov 2013

But NC doesn't appear to have a good track record of electing independents. It's a long way from New England.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
13. Based on his comments so far, I'll take himn too - for a NC Dem
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:11 PM
Nov 2013

I worry about somewhat moderate Republicans switching parties and pulling the Democratic Party more to the right also, but this guy seems like he is more than simply less crazy than the Republican he is running against. He sounds like he actually has real character and a sane moral compass, which makes him seem possibly a notch up from being a pragmatic partisan carpetbagger just looking for a more plausible path toward self advancement.

For the near term future we will need to elect some centrist Democrats from districts that have voted in conservatives lately if we want to take the House form Republicans - and that is essential or there is NO chance of anything remotely progressive emerging from Congress. I would be looking for candidates like this guy who at least have some personal integrity rather than simply being smarmy opportunists. Then, to offset their moderating influence on the Democratic Party, we have to work hard to recruit and elect strong and solid liberals and progressives from blue leaning districts. That will mean fighting it out in primaries against centrist Democratic incumbents in some cases

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
31. He doesn't bother me.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:57 PM
Nov 2013

I don't agree with much of what he has to say, and I'd rather a real Democrat ran for the seat, instead. That said, if he wins we'll take him. Speaker Pelosi could still twist his arm when absolutely necessary.

-Laelth

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
32. "Speaker Pelosi could still twist his arm when absolutely necessary" Yep...
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 06:52 PM
Nov 2013

It's pragmatic politics but the most important part of that sentence is "Speaker Pelosi". For the near term I'm not expecting to pick up many currently Republican seats in the South with true liberal candidates. A few maybe with really special candidates, but in general not yet. That can change though, maybe even by 2016.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. Less than it appears: It's an R+10 district with a R incumbent who is not this guy
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:18 PM
Nov 2013

I think he realized he couldn't win the R primary against the incumbent, and is hoping to get some help from an anti-R backlash.

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
20. Classic pi**ing in the pool. Yea go be a libertarian. don't be fooled he sees the numbers
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:16 PM
Nov 2013

for the tbag party. he will get to congress and vote like any other republican. Leopards don't change their spots
overnight.

Ian_rd

(2,124 posts)
33. Massive kudos to him for calling the voter laws what they really are
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 08:13 PM
Nov 2013

There will be many more like him. Some will switch because of genuine differences with the new party of the crazy, and others will switch just for political survival.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
34. He's just being huffy and making a symbolic gesture.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 12:15 AM
Nov 2013

He'd have been better off switching to an Independent. That seems to be the default party of disenchanted moderate Republicans anyway and he'd still have won votes from some of the Rethug loony toons that would never dream of voting for a Democrat.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
40. True, but there are plenty more, I know
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:07 PM
Nov 2013

Some of which are here posting on DU, and we need to stand with them as one, not northern vs southern, but one America.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
50. Absolutely. In 2009 Mississippi had a 3-1 Democratic delegation. Today its 3-1 Republican
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 10:17 AM
Nov 2013

The two who lost weren't perfect by a long shot but they were the best that could reasonably be expected in their districts and their Republican successors are much, much worse. I'll take a moderate Democrat in Mississippi any day over a tea-bagging Neanderthal (apologies to any Neanderthal DUers who post here).

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
51. I totally agree. Anyone here who thinks differently should ask themselves
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 10:51 AM
Nov 2013

if we are better off now with republican miscreants Diane Black, Scott DesJarlais, and Stephen Fincher representing Tennessee in congressional districts that had until 2010 been held by democrats Bart Gordon, Lincoln Davis, and John Tanner. Better a blue dog than a rabid dog, imho.

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